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Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?

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RAZD
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Message 166 of 402 (474149)
07-05-2008 8:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 164 by John 10:10
07-05-2008 8:15 PM

Creationist falsehoods are not evolution.
And a fully developed man pops out, right?
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Why?
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We are talking about evolution, not creationist strawman versions.
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You need to forget everything you think you know about evolution, because it is not what evolution is.
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What the experiment shows is evolution: the change in hereditary traits from one generation to the next.
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So, you have a choice: retreat in denial and ignore reality, or try to understand reality.
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07-05-2008 9:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 170 by John 10:10
07-05-2008 8:57 PM

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I don't know what you think the "scientific method" is, but it's simply discovering/proving how things are or came to be as they are. The evolutionary model can in no way, shape or form be called the "scientific method" because it cannot do this.
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There is no science that proves theories. There are NO proven theories.
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Now you can either accept this fact and learn from it, or you can try to demonstrate that it is false.
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You would do this by presenting one (1) single theory from any field of science of your choice that is proven to be a fact.
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One single theory.
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Surely if you are correct there must be thousands of them, so this should not be difficult, even for a creationist that is unused, as most are, to the concept of actually substantiating claims and assertions, so take a whack at it:
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One single proven theory.
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Message 263 of 402 (474357)
07-07-2008 9:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 262 by Rrhain
07-07-2008 8:11 PM

Just a note
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At no point during that unbroken history of 66 million years did the foraminifera transmute into something other than foraminifera.
Why would it? Foraminifera is an entire phylum. Were you expecting a new kingdom to arise? Do you seriously not understand claddistics and taxonomy?
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They were also only looking for foraminifera fossils, and not classifying any other fossils in the sediments, which means that the only fossils reported in their study will of necessity only be foraminifera. Do you look for announcements of new births in the pages on deaths?
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This, too, has been explained to ICANT, but he has chosen to ignore\forget this detail.
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07-07-2008 10:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 265 by ICANT
07-07-2008 10:17 PM

Re: Just a note
I didn't like the explanation then and I still am not fond of it.
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Curiously reality is completely unaffected by your opinion. Rather than just saying you don't like it, why don't you explore how it could be wrong. Can you tell me how a study done to classify foraminifera shells (tests) would find a species that had evolved to have no shell?
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My question is if they started out 500 million years ago as foraminifera and they are still foraminifera,...
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PRATT CC150
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Why could not everything else have started at a point in the past and continued until today?
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We\They did. According to the evidence, we all started with blue-green algae 3.5 billion years ago and we have continued until today.
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07-08-2008 10:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 330 by Organicmachination
07-08-2008 9:25 PM

asian green warblers
here's one I like:
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Greenish warblers
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