Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?

I live about 225 miles from Crystal River Nuclear Power Plant and I don't want any of those guys making reliable conclusions. I want them to know for a fact what they are doing. If that sucker melts down I won't be able to argue with you guys.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

As I see it John does not have the luxury of having a hypothesis.
In the BBT theory so what if there are things wrong with some aspects of the theory. As far as evolution is concerned what is the problem if something is wrong you just change the theory and go on.What John has been associated with all his life is something where you can not make a mistake in your theory. If you do you take out a lot of the population and destroy a portion of the country.So he is not allowed to make mistakes. Why should anybody else that is involved in science be allowed to.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Why ask me?Why don't you ask some of the millions of people that were affected by, The Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant Accident.Russia. 60,180 sq. miles affected 5 million people.
Belarus 2,316 sq. miles of land including 1,158 sq. miles of fertile agricultural land, was rendered useless. 3 million people affected.
Ukraine 11.36 million acres of fertile land, 17.2 million people affected.20 years later the research still goes on. For decades to come the land and peoples will be affected.This is what happens when science messes up in real life.In the US in 1979 we had the Three Mile Island plant 2 meltdown caused by problems in the non nuclear part of the plant.Due to proper engineering there was no problems in Middletown, Pennsylvania, as there was in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.As I said they are not allowed to make mistakes. If they do there are serious consequences.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Stupid me I thought Nuclear Plants were run by Nuclear Scientist.I thought the engineers just built and carried out the requests and plans of the Nuclear Scientist.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Since nuclear power is one of the most devastating powers man has tried to harness I hope somebody knows what they are doing.I live in Florida we have 3 nuclear plants producing 50% of our electricity. With the problem of fossil fuels we will see more new plants in the future.I truly hope there are scientist that have looked at all the problems with TMI and Chernobyl and fixed all the problems for the future plants.But these problems is what I was bring up as the basis for John 10:10's viewing true science as perfect.When the statement evolution has been tried tested and reproduced is made over and over does not make it 100% true.There are certain things that have been observed, tested and reproduced.There are things that have not been observed, tested or reproduced but is accepted as a fact.No one has been around the billions of years it would take to observe a water creature become a land creature or a land creature become a water creature. Neither has it been reproduced.No one has observed some creature parenting offspring that evolved into apes on one side of the family and humans on the other side of the family. Neither has this been reproduced.There is a lot of speculation concerning these events but they have not been observed, tested or reproduced.They have been claimed to have been tested, observed and reproduced.
But claiming something does not make it so.If I am not mistaken this is the point John 10:10 is trying to make.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

You are probably right that they were not doing research because if they had been they could have prevented those disasters rather than research it for the last 20 years.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

FPL needs a NUCLEAR PSA in Juno Fl. The requirements are a Bachelor's degree in science and 12 years in Nuclear experience.Isn't that just a bit above a technician?Rrhain writes in Message 139I was referring to the poster John 10:10 not the Bible text. I did not say it was a fact. I said they were ACCEPTED as a fact. Big difference. No I am not upset that science allows for correction of mistakes.I just don't like to be told something is 99% true and later it be proven false. Why not wait until you are actually 100% sure and then claim it as a fact? That is my problem.I will quote you, "Right, because there is such a thing as "perfect." Why can I not expect things to be that way? Rrhain there is only one complete fossil record of any length of time that I know of. Foraminifera have been around for some 500 million years. There is a record for the last 100 million years with the foraminifera going through an extinction event and us having a complete record of the last 66 million years. During which time 330 different speciation events occurred. At the end of the 66 million year perfect record of foraminifera they were still foraminifera. Just a few moments ago when I made sure of the foraminifera data. Rrhain do you ever read a thread before you start posting. Everything I have posted in this thread has come after reading several posts by a retired nuclear engineer with the posting name of John 10:10. His last message was Message 119.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

The information of the Foraminifera has been on my computer for over a year. I only checked the Archives at FSU to see if it had been updated.But do I Know anything? When it comes to science very little. What I do know is from reading paper's by Hawking, Turok, Brandenberger,
Carroll, Trodden, Kamionkowski, Liddle, Wiltshire, Kosowsky, Turner, Arnold, and Parker just to name a few. I have also picked up some things here on EvC from cavediver and Son Goku. Even a few things from yourself and others.What would it actually take for an apple to either stay where you put it in the air or fall upward on earth?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I was looking for real information.What would have to happen to the planet earth for an apple to stay in place when released at a point above the ground or to fly off into space? I have no idea.As I understand it if one of the astronauts working on the space station was to lose attachment to the station or shuttle they would fall away from them. The direction in which they would fall would be determined from their position in relation to the space station or shuttle.Remember I am trying to determine which way a star would have to be going to be falling. No.Only the information pertaining to the Foraminifera. I made no claims.I don't remember mentioning anything other that foraminifera. I was presenting an unbroken history of foraminifera for 66 million years that could be traced back 500 million years. During the 66 million years they had changed 330 times but they were still foraminifera at the end of 500 million years.At no point during that unbroken history of 66 million years did the foraminifera transmute into something other than foraminifera.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

subbie I agree that all science theories are tentative.But I am also stupid enough to believe there are many absolute scientific facts. I will name only one and you correct me if I have drawn the wrong conclusion.Somewhere around 1100 AD an experiment was started using a decapitating machine. This experiment ended in the not to distant past with the French guillotine. I can find no person that ever had their head decapitated by one of those machines that survived and lived to talk about it.Now I believe it is a scientifically proven absolute fact that if you put your head in one of those machines and it is activated and it decapitates your head that you will not survive.Then again I may be wrong.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I would be right 100 years from now. You would have been in the grave a long time.Now as to it being possible to reattach a head I think it will be possible a lot sooner than 100 years. The problem would be keeping both parts alive until reattachment was completed.All foolishness aside though I believe there are two scientific theories that will never be falsified. They are the BBT and ToE.
They can not be falsified. They only get propped up with another theory.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I brought all this over so I am not accused of cherry picking, or quote mining.I want to address this part: I was talking about a complete fossil record of 66 million years with no missing gaps.Now if you know of some others out there I would love to read about them.BTW thanks for the space info.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Stranger long time no argue, I didn't like the explanation then and I still am not fond of it.But basically my point is there are foraminifera fossils that are 500 million years old. We have a 66 million year unbroken record of foraminifera fossils.My question is if they started out 500 million years ago as foraminifera and they are still foraminifera, Why could not everything else have started at a point in the past and continued until today?The foraminifera did.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Well at one time there was a picture that showed horses in a gradual evolution progression.Now after rearranging the fossils in proper order there is a lot of sudden appearances. There are fossils that were out of place in that slow gradual change.So it seems the horse evolution is not as solid as it used to be.But I have no doubt they will make it fit.Check out the 2 horses in my avatar.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Those are two different species of horses. There is no way they could breed physically.Thumbelina is the smallest horse on record.
Thumbelina facts.
Breed: Dwarf miniature horse
Type: Chestnut Mare
Birthday: May 1st, 2001
Home: Goose Creek Farms in Missouri
Height: 17 1/2 inches or 44.5 centimeters tall
Weight: 57 pounds
Diet: 1 cup of grain twice a day and a few handfuls of hay.
Her parents were standard miniature horses.
Thumbelina is not a Shetland.The big fellow is Radar, a Belgian draught horse.
He stands 6' 7 1/2" weighs 2400 lbs.
At the time of the picture he was the world's tallest horse.
There is one now 6' 11" tall.So since we have horses today from the size of Tumbelina to Radar
and all points in-between I am not sure the horse tree is correct. But that is my problem.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."