Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?

That has been done by people called "scientists". You may now and then have seen some of these scientist folks while you scrubbed the floors of nuclear power stations, or whatever non-scientific task you performed while hanging around scientists.Let's quote 72 Nobel prize winning scientists again: Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Note - 3 day suspension because of this message

"Unless you are blind, one can see evolution taking place before your very eyes ..."

No, but surely we can reject any hypothesis that makes God a liar.

Here's a simple yes-or-no question for you. Please answer it yes or no, rather than with windy creationist rhetoric.THose 72 Nobel Prize winning scientists I quoted --- do they know what "true science" is?

Saying that it is deception is not defining it, it's describing it.If we followed the rule you wish to apply, I couldn't call flat-Earthery "bunkum", because only flat-Earthers get to decide if it's bunkum. So ... does it not rule out evolution? Only that definition would include a deity who incorporated evolution, the Big Bang, et cetera into his plan: in other words a real God who made the universe we actually live in. And yet it is you who keeps typing demonstrable falsehoods, and we who keep supplying facts.If a house is divided against itself, how can it stand?

John 10:10, I asked you a question: Yes or no?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

No, you make predictions about how things are. Ah, like the theory of evolution then. Unless what you have discovered is that Saturn has rings, in which case your discovery does no good whatsoever for mankind apart from making them better informed.---I believe I remember saying that one day you would make it through an entire paragraph without making a single mistake. With our patient tuition, you're getting close. Good luck. Of course we understand what you are saying. We also understand the immense flaws in what you're saying.This woyld be part of you being the pupil and we being the teachers.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

No, it isn't.So let me ask you again: Yes or no, John 10:10? Yes or no?It's a very simple question, and yet I knew you were going to try to evade it.Yes or no?

You're getting closer and closer. If you'd written "predictions" instead of "facts", that sentence would have been completely true.And, of course, it would describe the theory of evolution perfectly. How else do scientists know that it's true, except that it predicts the facts of nature apparent to us now?Once more, I would urge you to learn something about the subjects that you wish to discuss.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

I knew you'd run away from this one. I asked you for a yes-or-no answer, without any windy creationist rhetoric. You gave me windy creationist rhetoric without a yes or a no.So let's do it again.72 Nobel Prize winning scientists say that: So you know perfectly well what they think of evolution, don't play dumb.Now, do they know what "true science is"?Yes or no? YES or NO ?

I seem to remember telling you at the start of this thread that reciting dumb creationist lies like this won't convince us.Listen carefully.In principle, we could persuade you to study biology and find out that you're wrong. Because knowledge is communicable. OK, in practice this will never happen, 'cos you will in fact never ever study the subjects you like to prate about. But in principle you could find out something about science in general or biology in particular, and slap your forehead and say "Oh! Duh! Now I see why I was wrong!"But ignorance is not communicable. Unless you kidnap me and literally cut out large chunks of my brain, you cannot make me forget the knowledge that I have acquired. You can rant, you can rave, you can scream, and you can tell me that the theory of evolution is "very bad", but all your nonsense will not drive a single particle of knowledge out of my head.We evolutionists can (in principle) win. Because it is at least in principle possible that we can make you less dumb. We might educate you. It's not likely, but I maintain that it is possible. You, on the other hand, cannot win. You cannot make people be ignorant when they have knowledge. Even if I wished to be ignorant, I could not voluntarily forget what I have learned. No amount of argument on your part will ever make me ignorant. This is why you must always fail.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

While you're bloviating about "the biology that makes sense", would you please answer this simple yes-or-no question? Yes or no? Do they know what "the biology that makes sense" is? YES or NO?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Oh, look, now he's pretending that the foundational theory of biology is a "religion".Hello, John 10:10?Hello-o?We've heard a zillion creationist loons recite this stupid gibberish. Every person who's crazy in the head recites this trash. It's one of the more pathetic of your creationist rituals. You recite it over and over, and it doesn't change our minds. Because the gibberish recited by creationists is not evidence.We've heard people bleat out this lie. And being lied to didn't change our opinion.Once more, you fail.

Your pathetic evasions, obfuscation and rhetoric do not in fact consistute an answer, nor indeed "plain English".I knew this would scare you.Let's ask again. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Yes, they also explain that the fact of evolution is a fact.When you finally grasp the meaning of the word "theory", which has been repeatedly explained to you since the beginning of this thread, then you will understand this.Good luck with that.