Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?

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Creationism isn't ignorance, it's just an alternative explanation for those who genuinely believe that history happened according to how the Holy Bible said it did. While this doesn't exclude evolution, the consequences are obvious - that one must accept his bible as weaker and weaker, and more watered down, until guess what? You then question Christ himself - and how his miracles could have been naturally explained. Where does it end?

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It ends with one losing their faith because they based their faith on a false premise - that in order to "hang unto" that faith one had to believe in a literal reading of the Bible. The problem is that a literal reading of the Bible is at odds with hard scientific evidence. The answer isn't to reject scientific fact, it is to understand that faith is not dependent of a literal reading of the Bible. It is a liberating revelation when one accepts that.

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Intelligent Design is simply understanding that all creatures, uncluding man, were created fully developed after their own kind, and did not evolve over millions/billions of years from a single spark of life.

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For which, of course, there is no evidence except incredulity - which is not actually evidence. In fact, what evidence there is is against ID - particularly the molecular biological evidence.

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We finally agree that ToE is a theory, not a fact.

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Actually, I doubt that ANYONE who accepts the ToE agrees with this statement in the way you meant it. I certainly don't. This is ploughed ground several times over in the Evolution/Creation debate and the fact that you would bring it up at all suggests that you need to review some high school biology.

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No. Let's try again. You start with things as they are. You make predictions as to how things came to be as they are. You PROVE to a high degree of accuracy your predictions were correct. At this point there is no need to fold them back into more theories, and start over again. Your predictions that are proven to a high degree of accuracy are no longer theories but are facts, even laws or absolutes, and can be relied upon by scientists, engineers, doctors, etc. to create many other things for the good of mankind.

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Now do you get it?

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Actually, you are the one who doesn't "get it," if "it" is understanding the meaning of scientific theories. In fact, scientific theories do not magically turn into laws or absolutes no matter how well they explain the data. So to say as you did that "we finally agree that the ToE is a theory and not a fact" shows that you do not "get it." Sorry, but that is my opinion that I suspect most here would agree with.

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Scientists who believe in their Creator do all manner of scientific research,....

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Please don't be deliberately dense. There is a big difference between scientists who believe in a Creator doing scientific research and "Creationist Science." The former is science, the latter isn't. But I think you know that.

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The biology that makes sense is the biology that truly understands how the human body works and how to help fix it when something goes wrong, not a theory about how life evolved.

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So you trust the biologists when they help solve medical problems but you don't trust them when they tell you something that goes against your religious beliefs? What is it that suddenly made them untrustworthy? This is one of the things that never ceases to amaze me. Creationists think science is great as long as it is solving their medical problems but as soon as it steps on their cherished sectarian beliefs about evolution they get all bent out of shape. Yet it is the study of evolutionary biology, comparative vertebrate anatomy, genetics, molecular biology, etc., that has played an indispensible role in advancing medical science. Why use modern medicine at all if God is all knowing and all powerful? Just let God heal you then. Edited by deerbreh, : No reason given.Edited by deerbreh, : No reason given.