Gay Marriage

But this loophole exists regardless if you have same sex marriage or not. Just because you "think" it "might" be easier to manipulate it doesn't mean that it will be. Had your friend asked women with lesser concern for the law than he would have gained citizen status. In effect what I am saying is that being a man or a women had no bearing on whether they said yes or no. The male friends you refer to may have only said that in jest, seeing how a yes answer really wouldn't have mattered.

except that they kept the definition as between TWO consenting adults. That excludes polygamy. Also the standard definition of marriage as between man and woman does not exclude incestual relationships. Brother and sister who wish to marry would still fall under your standard definition.

I certainly wouldn't mind if they did. I love polygamy. However I don't see in there where they are supporting the right to marry multiple parteners. Person is singular no matter how you look at it. And

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right whose protection is guaranteed to all persons by the California Constitution.

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is simply stating that it is a right extended to all citizens of California.

Ok how is this. If the concern revolves around having to redefine a word. In any area that list the defintion as husband and wife, include or any combination of the above TWO. There, the simpilist way to define marriage that can include same sex couples while leaving out all the strawmen like polygamy or pedophiles.

Just to clarify your fact it is 14 in Texas so long as the other party is 17. The actual age of consent is 17. Age of consent by State I just threw the last sentence in there because I have seen that argument brought up so many times already. Thought I might be able to preempt it.Edited by rueh, : Man I am terrible at spelling. Thank god for F7