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Author Topic:   Creationists Should Learn to Play the Game Called Science
Dr Adequate
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Message 22 of 47 (475058)
07-13-2008 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by SlightReturn
07-13-2008 12:32 AM


Evolution isn't science either. Things proven by science are observable, testable and able to be repeated.
Really?
Would you acknowledge that Saturn has rings, and that this has been proven by science?
Splendid. Now please "repeat" Saturn's rings.
Or acknowledge that you are reciting creationist rubbish without having spent a moment thinking about whether it's true or makes sense.
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The rest of your post is mere assertion, so I shall answer it in the same way.
Radiometric dating cannot be proven to be reliable.
Yes it can, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
The fossil record as evidence is a joke.
No it isn't, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
The layers of the earth could just as easily prove a world wide flood.
No they couldn't, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
Evolutionists just assume all these things are in spport of evolution.
No they don't, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
It's one big assumption based on many smaller assumptions.
No it isn't, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
Evolution is not scientific in the slightest
Yes it is, which is why you supply no evidence for this statement.
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Now, do feel free to come back when you have some sort of argument, rather than just reciting the witless lies you've read in tatty little creationist pamphlets. We've heard 'em. They weren't convincing the first time.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 28 of 47 (475091)
07-13-2008 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Syamsu
07-13-2008 10:46 AM


Re: Testable
Without faith justice would be fully rational, and totally explainable by science, but then that wouldn't be justice but just a measure of conformity to specified rules and goals. You are playing wordgames with the definition of justice, because you refuse to define justice as spiritual, so you leave it in the middle whether or not you have a science of good and evil.
A system of justice must always allow freedom for the judge, because without decision we can't get to the spiritual realm where justice is. This freedom is best transferred to a jury, so the emotional burden doesn't get too heavy on the judge.
What you are talkig about as justice, zero sum games, in this context it is basically a science of good and evil, how could I conclude differently?
Faith implies a set of beliefs about the spiritual, and a commitment to those beliefs. Right you can't have any society without that, I don't think so, I've never seen it, but what you can do, is to leave those beliefs free eventhough they are neccessary for society.
You continue to be odd.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 30 of 47 (475093)
07-13-2008 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Syamsu
07-13-2008 8:59 AM


Re: Testable
But we can prove as a matter of scientific fact that decisions are made in the universe ...
Look, you have just acquired one very very stupid opinion. Please start one thread about it, rather than spamming every thread about it.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 34 of 47 (475099)
07-13-2008 11:51 AM
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07-13-2008 11:34 AM


Re: Testable
I connected it to the subject at issue with argument, the mystery, so it is legitemate. Asking for decision to be confined to a thread, is like asking that you would confine cause and effect in the universe to a single thread.
No, asking that your rubbish, which only you believe, should be confined to a single thread is a whole lot more like asking that your rubbish, which only you believe, should be confined to a single thread.
Do you see the similarity between asking that your rubbish, which only you believe, should be confined to a single thread, and asking that your rubbish, which only you believe, should be confined to a single thread, or do I have to explain it to you?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 37 of 47 (475109)
07-13-2008 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Syamsu
07-13-2008 11:53 AM


Re: New Thread Required
Gee, let's not do that. I have previously referenced a science paper which says decisions are real by an awardwinning wellknown professor ...
Yeah, of course decisions are real. For example, I have just decided to call you an idiot.
You're an idiot.
There, we didn't need an "awardwinning wellknown professor" to tell us that, did we?
If, however, you wish to tell lies about some specific area of science, then I recommend that you start a thread about it rather than spamming every thread you can with vague incoherent references to whatever lie it is that you wish to tell.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 39 of 47 (475112)
07-13-2008 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Syamsu
07-13-2008 12:25 PM


Re: New Thread Required
If you can show me that you support science about decisions, and that it is basically different from mine, then I will confine myself to a single thread. But otherwise I conclude that you wish to oppress knowledge about decisions altogether, and I won't confine myself to a single thread, and request that you be stopped from oppressing an entire category of knowledge.
But I know that you don't have any science about decisions, because you don't seem to know anything about the theory I referred to, which I know to be the only theory in science that confirmed free will. And that theory is by an awardwinning professor, and you don't seem to be an awardwinning professor yourself.
If you have anything at all to say, please start a thread and say it.
I don't think that I can express myself any more clearly than that.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 43 of 47 (475118)
07-13-2008 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Syamsu
07-13-2008 12:43 PM


Re: New Thread Required
You and the other guy need to state your science about decisions, I've already done so.
And I (a.k.a. "the other guy") have stated that you've talking crap.
Are we done yet, or do you think that your new and world-shaking concept deserves its own thread?
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