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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
I read this and was pathetically optimistic that I would be able to understand.
As "particle" travelling at the speed of light this makes sense in terms of my understanding of SR. So far so good.
That is the question I am asking. So again I am optimistic regarding my comprehension.
I am lost :( But I am utterly lost as to how this relates to the red shift?
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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
You seem to be saying that by trapping and condenscing pure energy in the absence of any matter new matter will be created..........
According to you pure energy, of whatever form, can be condensed to form a lump of uranium, for example? Is this what you are saying?
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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
Regardless of whether or not we have the technology to actually do so in practise, what you seem to be saying is that it is in principle possible to condense any form of energy into matter? If so this is just wrong.
Time and space? Fields? What are black holes in your view?
I don't find any mention of matter being a "condensed form of energy". My guess is that this misapprehension of the equivalance principle and resulting interpretation is uniquely your own.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
No No No. The demo is a model of how the force of gravity can be considered in terms of spacetime curvature. Nobody is saying that gravity does not exist. Gravity is the effect of spacetime curvature. GR provides a geometric explanation of what actually underlies the force of gravity.
No it is a classroom model used for explanatory purposes. In the same way I can model the solar system with a bowling ball, an orange and some grapes nobody is claiming this is "proof" of the structure of the solar system!!!
The demo proves nothing and is not intended to prove anything. Predicted calculated results that have been experimentally verified. Repeatedly.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
In other words the assertion that "matter is a condensed form of energy" is not supported at all and is in fact an interpretation borne of your misapprehension of the equivalence principle. I am familiar with the equivalence principle. I have no doubt that there is a relationship between energy and matter. You are just wrong with regard to this.
Protons, neutrons and electrons. To the best of our knowledge neutrons and protons are themselves comprised of quarks which are fundamental particles.
Negatively charged fundamental particles.
Fundamental particles and the various quantised force carrier 'particles' associated with the 4 fundamental forces. It may be the case that various fundamental particles can be derived from multidimensional strings 'vibrating' at different 'frequencies'. Or there may be another basis for the various properties of the different fundamental particles. Time will tell.
Matter is not made of energy. Energy is a property of matter. We need to get past this erroneous assertion of yours before any progress can be made.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 201 days) Posts: 10332 From: London England Joined: |
Gravity is a force borne from spacetime curvature. As you are such a wiki fan - from Wiki
John writes
The whole GPS satellite system relies on the curvature of spacetime and the calculations that are derived from this view of spacetime as a curved "fabric".
As someone who is so fond of Wiki I would suggest that you look up General Realtivity and the verification of it in terms of the numerous observed effects of spacetime curvature. It has been repeatedly experimentally verified. From as far back as 1915 but most famously in 1919. From Wiki
John says
Spacetime can hardly curve if it is not a physical thing now can it? Good luck.
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