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bluescat48
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Message 16 of 27 (476614)
07-25-2008 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by New Cat's Eye
07-25-2008 8:28 AM


Re: The goal
Even if we are, in fact, absolutely correct, our tenativity prevents it from ever becomming "truth" to us.
So we, ourselves, cannot have it as "truth" (even though it might actually be).
It might be "truth" in reality, but for us it will never be "truth".
It is good that we cannot have it as "truth." If this were the case we would still be in the dark ages. What was "truth" in the 14th century in many cases is no longer truth. To question the truth is to seek the truth.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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bluescat48
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Message 18 of 27 (476619)
07-25-2008 10:40 AM
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07-25-2008 10:31 AM


Re: The goal
Then it wasn't "truth". "Truth" as it is used here refers to the actual objective reality. What was thought to be "truth" in the 14th C. was not actually the "truth".
My point exactly. How do we know if what we assume as truth is in fact truth. The point is that many theories have been either altered or overturned thus showing what is believed to be truth, many in reality, not be.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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bluescat48
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Message 20 of 27 (476634)
07-25-2008 12:30 PM
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07-25-2008 10:52 AM


Re: The goal
But theories aren't believed to be "truth" in the first place, its tenative.
Not believed, but accepted as truth until a more plausible theory is found. In the middle of the 18th century, most scientists accepted the phlogiston theory as truth, but this was overturned by Lavoisier's theory of oxidation-reduction which is still accepted.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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