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Author Topic:   How Do Scientists Believe in God and Evolution?
rueh
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Message 141 of 145 (475506)
07-16-2008 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by brendatucker
06-07-2008 1:36 PM


Re: Materialism and Spirituality
I think the hardest part for anyone to swallow of your hypothesis is the cyclical time. Hardly anyone believes in cyclical time anymore except those with eastern religion philosophy’s. This is an outdated world view based on observing repetitive patterns in nature. Most people view time as linear now a days, bi directional possibly but not cyclical.

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rueh
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From: universal city tx
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Message 143 of 145 (477557)
08-04-2008 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by brendatucker
08-04-2008 2:54 PM


Re: Materialism and Spirituality
No I believe that they would be mutually exclusive. Linear designating a clear beginning/ end. Where time moves from event to event in a line. Cyclical designating a repetitive beginnings and endings. Where the cumulative events do not move to a goal, but instead to a new beginning. My only objection to it would be the arrow of time where we can clearly see that the universe is ever increasing in entropy. To me this indicates that time is linear, but that may not be the case in the entire universe. To be perfectly honest I really cannot understand alot of what you are saying in the original post I responded to. Where are you getting these ideas from? The only ideas I have seen before presented in such a way would be either eternal return or eastern philosophy religions.
Added by edit: It may be possible that the two concepts of time are not so mutually exclusive. Time may be a dimension stretched out on such a large level that to the human mind it appears flat or linear but is in fact curved. Think of the horizon of the earth, or the curvature of space time. It may be possible that as we think of the universe as a whole. We could imagine a cosmic uroboros where on the grand scale we have the large scale structures of the universe swallowing the smallest scale structures and in turn giving rise to the large scale(Imagine from Joel R Primrick and Nancy Ellen Abrams). If time and space are so inseparable so as to talk of one you also are talking about the other (space time) than time itself may also be curved just the same as space. All just assertions however, since I lack the fortitude of thought and evidence to say so with any reliability.
Edited by rueh, : Had a thought.
Edited by rueh, : Db codes are tricky sometimes

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