Georgian/Russian conflict

Artemis E.
We have a limit of more or less 300 posts on a thread. We prefer that they not be wasted. Your posts are nearly contentless and one is pressing on the guidelines.This is a warning. If you repeat this patter you'll get a short suspension (at first).

there are hardly any posts in this thread with any content, unless you consider this content: weak generalized statement, with no content off topic, no stance, completely wrong. two sentences no stance, no position just pictures. Blantantly breaking rule #5 one sentence
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Hey lets single somebody out! Might as well pick on the conservative who isnt from the UK: Translation: I am for one tired of this conservative. So let me make something up and then we can silence him.300 posts?
Nowhere in the rules or anywhere else that I can see.WE prefer they not be wasted?
This is completely a subjective sentence. Basically if you type something the Admin viewing it disagrees with, then arbitrarily you are doing something wrong.My Contentless posts? see above.^What guidelines?I'm guessing #10I thought that since anyone from the UK, and/or of a liberal mindset has been allowed to call me any names they want, that rule #10 was a complete joke as in HAHA funny, and not serious at all.What I have learned is that these rules are in place for the Admin to pick and choose when to follow them, and when not too.
Mostly when their liberal buddies, fellow anglophiles, athiest scientists, or anyone who has been here for more than a year - the rules are ignored. Yet when a conservative, christian, a newer member, or a creationist (not everyone belongs to all the groups BTW), happens to speak up in self defense, the rules are pointed out to them. Then used to silence them, and thier opinoins. that threat is pretty scary. You mean I cant hang out for a while with people who call me names and break rules which I am not allowed to break!?!Please suspend me and prove to me the overly subjective bias of the the Admin of this site. Prove me right! Or make something else up because I called you on this one.

You can take this to:
Windsor castleNot here.Another admin can have a look but don't look for sympathy when you play silly games.

Actually we don't have any freely available troops right now. The US can not effectively respond with ground troops because of the surge in Iraq. In fact Afghanistan, which is now more dangerous then Iraq (the military has backed off from border regions), can not be supported unless troops are drawn away Iraq.Unless of course you are suggesting that the US military take any units currently on leave and just toss them into the Georgian conflict?ABE: I just saw this fairly Paranoid Article that suggested a return to cold war politics of manufactured threats and militarism... And that McCain purposefully tried to 'bait' a conflict... Strange.Edited by Discreet Label, : No reason given.

That is simply factually wrong. Our commanders want more troops in Afganistan but are unable to get them because of either their commitment in Iraq or because they are out of rotation.If you think we have enough troops, then why can't those commanders get what they need? Page Not Found: 404 Not Found - Pentagon: More troops to Afghanistan needed, but unlikely - CNN.com If you think we have enough troops, then why are they using stop-loss to prevent soldiers from leaving the military at an uprecidented rate?
http://www.usatoday.com/...tion/2004-01-05-army-troops_x.htm
Stop-loss policy - Wikipedia If you think we have enough troops, then why did they extend rotations from 12 to 15 months?Gates: Army tours extended by three months - CNN.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../04/11/AR2007041100615.html Let me stoop down to your level for just a minute. Translation: I am too lazy to look up facts to counter why people point out that I am uninformed so I'll just call people names instead.Maybe you should spend 5 minutes with Google before you walk in here to put your foot into your mouth......again.Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

in not looking for sympathy, especially from your kind. wow that thread is nothing but a bunch of whiny bitches trying to get other posters into trouble. there is some good humor there, but im not a little bitch, i would never report anyone, but thanks now i know who the bitches are. no. but there are guys in the military who are sitting in bases in europe, and asia, who have not gone to Iraq/Afghanistan, nor will. Afghanistan is run by NATO. US forces there are only 1/3 of the total force, when they say they want more troops there, they are asking help from other NATO countries. there may not be enough troops there, but for you to assume that they need or want only US troops is rather naive, but you have been all about being naive on this topic, so i cant put it past you. you started it with the name calling. CBS & CNN is only a source if you are a liberal and drink the kool-aid.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Do you have some kind of problem with direct quotes from our military leaders?WTF does the news outlet have anything to do with it? This is what OUR GUYS are saying about the situation.You have YET to debate any one of my points substantially. All you do is dismiss without regard. I'll ask again. Are you interested in real debate or are you trolling again?Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

If you have a problem with sources. Then try these on for size.I stand by my 5 mins with Google comment. Perhaps you should trade informing yourself for posting innane comments as your primary hobby.The jump coincides with the extension of combat tours.
veteransforamerica.org - US Army's Stop-Loss orders up...Is the U.S. Army Operating a 'Back Door' Draft? : NPR
Military Daily News, Military Headlines | Military.com
http://www.pbs.org/...ilitary/jan-june05/stop-loss_2-24.html
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More sites summarize/quote Mullen

Interview Transcripts of Mullen
http://www.pbs.org/.../military/july-dec08/mullen_07-22.html Bush vows more troops for Afghanistan, but Mullen doesn't have them | Salon.com

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

Your references don't really rebut his argument... I haven't seen support for the claims, but assuming that we do have troops in Europe and Asia that could be sent to Georgia then the fact that we don't have enough troops to send to Afganistan because of all the troops in Iraq is a red herring.You'd have to refute the claim that there are enough troops in Europe and Asia that can go to Georgia to refute his argument.Us having troops stationed in Europe/Asia would be more reason why we don't have enough troops to send into Afganistan.

The military administration and leadership would not be jumping through hoops to staff Iraq if there was availability elsewhere. War fatigue is not political windfall for the White House.Why would Mullen even mention the strain in Iraq as a hinderance for getting needed resources to Afganistan if they were available elsewhere?As you also noted. AE also provided NO support for his assertion that there are all these unused troops in Europe. Its not my job to support his claims.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

They're not available. They're being used in Europe and Asia.

By that same exact logic, they are also unavailable for Georgia. AE's argument was that there are troops twiddling their thumbs in Europe that could go toe-to-toe with Russia if we wanted them to.Either way my point is made.That being said. I highly doubt, that in this political climate, Mullen and the Bushies would be stop-lossing, and extending Iraq tour length on a subset of active brigades while they have unused resources elsewhere. They would be rotated out and IIRC they in fact are rotated out. Its also not my point to prove. AE claimed that there are troops available for a conflict in Russia and has not posted a single iota of support while in the mean time I have given quotes from officials who are saying that our military is very badly strained.I find it very hard to believe that they would do that unless it was necessary. The public does not like to hear that or military is in a weakened state.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

Not if their use is for potential cases like the happenings in Georgia. and there might be. That's my point though. They are being used elsewhere. They are hanging out in Eurpoe/Asia "just in case".You wouldn't want to remove your "just in case" guys and put them in Iraq because what if the case comes up.Your argument that the unavailability of troops for Iraq means that we don't have guys stationed in Europe/Asia "just in case" is wrong.

Because the troops you do have in Iraq can't be stretched any further. Between filling combat roles, troops can be stationed in other areas so that one segement of your force is not the only ones subjected to extended tours and stop-loss.Neither you or AE are addressing the fact of the extra effort the administration is going through just to keep Iraq staffed. The very inconvient effort I might add. Answer this, if you were a military commander and you had the option of forcing people to stay in the military and keeping them longer than they should be in a combat theater versus simply swapping them out with some "just in case" soldiers in Berlin, what would you do? Well, I am tired to talking hypotheticals. If you want to pick up AE's banner for youself then lets see the beef. How many troops are in Europe or Asian theaters and what are their status with regards to having served or not in Iraq?I am perfectly willing to be shown wrong on this. But I certainly am not going to take the just so opinion of someone like AE who very obviously took no effort to reply to me in a substantive way.Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

wow for a moment I thought I was alone in the ability to think and realize, that the number of troops needed in the war effort, is not about the number in the entire military. Thanks Catholic Scientist for having the mental capacity to read and process information.Georgia is on the border of Asia and Europe it can be in either continent depending on the map you are using. An Emergency situation there would require the mobilization of troops in Europe most likely. It is not about going toe-toe with Russia, its only about having a presence thier to make them consider thier actions. You aren't even talking about the same thing I was talking about. I'm talking about a peace keeping mission to Georgia with some US Troops, and you go off on this big thing about lack of troops for the war. Its really hard to tell if you are "moving the goal posts", or simply lack the cognitive ability (something you can't find on google in 5min) to actively understand the difference between fighting a war and sending peace keepers to prevent Russia from conquering Georgia.I cant post abunch of links about something outside the topic im argueing against or I will be suspended, only leftist like yourself are alowed to break the rules here and get away with it.I think the only reason you tried to argue agaist something I wasn't argueing about is because I pointed out the horrible ability of Barack Obama to lead this country overseas. why dont you tell me from your own words Somehow your left-wing sources are legit, yet when you argue with somebody you accuse them (Nemisis Juggernaught) of using only right-wing sources. Oh the Irony in your posts! ROFLMFAO!