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Message 1 of 93 (478714)
08-19-2008 10:33 PM


My paper titled: "The Invulnerable Refutation Of Darwinism" is still in production. As a reminder to those who might not know: I have discovered scientific evidence that will explain, falsify and refute the theory of evolution as first advanced by Charles Darwin. Everything built on Darwin (= modern evolutionary biology) goes with it. I am still researching and writing, building a rock solid structural argument around this evidence. It will be worth the wait. My work will ruin the life of every evolutionist----inflicting total catastrophe upon the theory of evolution. When I am done I will post the link that will contain my work. Be also advised that my views have changed. I no longer accept microevolution----species are immutable. I can and will prove that each species owes its existence in nature to direct Divine power intruding into reality.
Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical, Old Earth-Young Biosphere Creationist-species immutabilist, Paleyan Designist, British Natural Theologian.

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Message 16 of 93 (478752)
08-20-2008 1:36 PM
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08-19-2008 11:52 PM


The horseshit you didn't even come up with yourself, but instead had to copy off of an insane televangelist?
Rahvin is lashing out.
The degree of slander (= anger) seen above is in direct ratio equal to the degree that the slander artist perceives the Stanford Ph.D. to threaten the veracity of evolution.
I eagerly anticipate you finishing your masterpiece of shame, Ray. I'm sure I won't be able to stop laughing for a straight month.
Common sense says that persons who think apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal should not laugh at anyone.
My paper will ruin the life of every evolutionist and there is nothing you can do about it.
Ray

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Message 17 of 93 (478754)
08-20-2008 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by bluegenes
08-20-2008 3:50 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
I look forward to it, Ray, I really do. There are very few "species immutabilists" left in the world, and the traitors at Answers in Genesis and elsewhere will no doubt have their lives ruined along with the evolutionists.
True.
But the Fundies are on your side----they accept microevolution like all secular Fundies (= the Atheists).
Have you included refutations of all the transitional fossils....
Yes, of course.
My refutation is original. I wish I could see your face when the argument sinks in.
Do you ever fear that the evidence for evolution might start coming in at a speed beyond your capabilities to update the "Invulnerable Refutation"?
There is no evidence that species evolve----none. The same are immutable: the effects of Divine power operating in reality.
Ray

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Message 23 of 93 (478764)
08-20-2008 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by cavediver
08-20-2008 4:06 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Ah, you must be unfmailiar with Ray's line of argument. As alluded to by Rhavin, any piece of evidence FOR evolution is necessarily a piece of evidence for Ray's refutation - pure genius
You have it backwards: we know Darwin reinterpreted evidence that was originally offered in support of Creationism, inverting the explanation, offering it as evidence of transmutation. Creationist Richard Owen's homologies and analogies (believe it or not, Owen originated both concepts in science) and adaptationism, originated or popularized by William Paley----pure genius----right Cavediver?
Ray
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Message 24 of 93 (478765)
08-20-2008 4:44 PM
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08-20-2008 6:27 AM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
I think we might ask him to change that to "believer in British Natural Theology" to make it clear that he's not actually from this doomed and depraved Isle of Infidels.
That is correct: I accept the scientific position of BNT (1802-1859): species are immutable based on Paley's 1802 Watchmaker thesis.
Ray

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Message 26 of 93 (478767)
08-20-2008 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Percy
08-20-2008 9:02 AM


'Fraid not. It is the scientific method to which we're beholden, not evolution.
The cornerstone of science is observation. Evolution is an interpretation and explanation of scientific evidence governed by the restrictions of Materialism-Naturalism which predetermine the interpretations, explanations and more importantly: the conclusions. Of course these interpretations and explanations are false on their face----pro-Atheism nonsense.
Ray

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Message 29 of 93 (478770)
08-20-2008 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by bluegenes
08-20-2008 1:59 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
Ray writes:
My refutation is original. I wish I could see your face when the argument sinks in.
Bluegenes writes:
I'll post a photo when the great day arrives,....
Actually I can show you a picture of what your face will look like:
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The above picture of mafia gangster Lefty Guns Ruggiero is a famous photo published in the Donnie Brasco books. What makes this particular photo SO special?
According to the caption beneath the image, in the book, it is a photo taken by a secret FBI undercover team minutes after Ruggiero was informed that his best friend and "partner" of many years in mafia crimes was really undercover agent Joseph Pistone. Of course until this very moment Ruggiero had no idea that Brasco was an FBI agent.
Take a good look at Ruggiero's face. This is what YOUR face is going to look like after I publish.
Ray

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Message 31 of 93 (478772)
08-20-2008 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Percy
08-20-2008 2:53 PM


What does common sense say about people who have somehow arrived at the strange conclusion that evolution teaches that apes morphed into men and that animals have magical powers to change into a different animal?
Attempted damage control.
Evolution says apes somehow morphed into men over the course of millions of years----that we do not descend from the first man Adam; and that animals have magical powers to speciate.
Animals, of course, have no magical powers, they are only concerned with eating and breeding. Imagine that; eating and breeding is interpreted by evolutionists to be the cause of their magical powers. Pure pro-Atheism buffoonery.
Ray

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Message 33 of 93 (478775)
08-20-2008 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Brian
08-20-2008 5:39 PM


Hi Brian!
In case anyone does not know Brian is my all time favorite here at EvC Forum. He is forthright to admit that he is an Atheist because the evidence supports Atheism, which makes so called Christian evolutionists fools and buffoons.
Ray, even I know that evolution doesn't say this.
This comment is actually an announcement admitting that human evolution is total nonsense and that it must be reinvented using more saner sounding descriptions.
In short said comment protests the way I described human evolution----that's all.
Ray

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Message 38 of 93 (478782)
08-20-2008 6:18 PM
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Not exactly. Instead, Brian was pointing out that your description is inaccurate. This is certainly a legitimate objection. If you cannot demonstrate that you understand something, you will never be able to argue against it.
Damage control continues....
The evolutionists are demanding and arguing for euphemisms----that they will not allow human evolution to be described literally. These attempts admit that human evolution is an absurdity that must be sanitized.
Of course evolutionists think nothing of placing Africans and transitional in the same sentence and context. This is one reason why they are so touchy about how human evolution is to be conveyed since it is rooted in gutter racism: human evolution says apes first began to morph into human beings in Africa. Of course this is not science, but like I said: gutter racism packaged as science.
Since over half of all adults in the U.S. are Creationists or IDists this mass of persons know that human evolution is gutter racism.
Ray

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Message 53 of 93 (478875)
08-21-2008 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Brian
08-21-2008 5:45 AM


I'm maybe picking you up wrong Ray, but what I am saying is that even in my limited knowlegde of evolution I know that evolution does not propose that humans evolved from apes.
Brian, my friend, you have simply made a bad error: evolution, since Darwin, says mankind evolved from an ancient ape ancestor that lived millions of years ago.
Ray

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Message 54 of 93 (478877)
08-21-2008 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Percy
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[SNIP....]In science the strength of a position is governed by its degree of correspondence to the real world and not by the emotional weight behind it.
I completely agree.
Ray

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Message 55 of 93 (478880)
08-21-2008 2:54 PM
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08-21-2008 4:19 AM


You do know that there is a running joke that America is called Dumbfuckistan for this very reason, don't you?
British wankery.
Ray

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Message 59 of 93 (478905)
08-21-2008 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Percy
08-21-2008 7:44 PM


The way you're conducting yourself in this discussion indicates that you not only don't agree, you don't even understand what it is you claim to agree with.
We have no idea as to what you are talking about.
The theory of evolution is accepted as valid science....
....by evolutionists. Antievolutionists reject evolution to be valid science because the evidence does not support the claims, and because the evidence is interpreted by a philosophical scheme that does not allow any other conclusion other than evolution.
....cause it is knowledge gained through the scientific method.
Circular question begging.
The scientific method is first and foremost observation. You are silently alluding to testability and the false assumption that Creationism-Design to fail in this crucial respect. Of course evolution is not testable in the way that you claim it to be. This is supported by the fact that evolution is an interpretation of evidence. This means evolutionists are running a rigged lottery since the interpretation is not subject falsification----not ever, but it is misrepresented to be just that. The only aspect of evolution that is truly on the table, eligible for falsification, revision, or modification, is causation and tempo. But the explanation or interpretation of evidence in favor of perpetual transmutation producing common ancestry is off the table and not subject to falsification or revision.
There is neither science nor method in your arguments here....
Straw man.
....,only false statements and emotional appeals.
Blanket misrepresentation.
You will not make any scientifically valid progress until you begin saying things that are actually true, and begin conducting your investigations in a way consistent with the scientific method.
More straw men, and their erection is a bad idea since anyone can scroll back and confirm.
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : add text.

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Message 60 of 93 (478906)
08-21-2008 9:56 PM
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Re: Dumfuckistan
It may {b}e wankery , but it is the truth. I am an American.
"What is something that a double agent would say?"
Alex: "correct....please select again."
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : add bracket
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : fix coding

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