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Message 25 of 93 (478766)
08-20-2008 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 4:44 PM


Re: Warm welcome back to my favourite creationist
quote:
That is correct: I accept the scientific position of BNT (1802-1859): species are immutable based on Paley's 1802 Watchmaker thesis.
Well, now we can see what's taking so bloody long. Ray's got somewhere between 150-200 years of scientific learning to catch up on. Perhaps we oughta cut him a little slack.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 35 of 93 (478779)
08-20-2008 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 5:49 PM


quote:
In short said comment protests the way I described human evolution----that's all.
Not exactly. Instead, Brian was pointing out that your description is inaccurate. This is certainly a legitimate objection. If you cannot demonstrate that you understand something, you will never be able to argue against it.
{AbE}Please everyone, forgive me for injecting a small dose of sanity into this discussion. I lost my head.
Edited by subbie, : As noted.

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Message 40 of 93 (478785)
08-20-2008 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Cold Foreign Object
08-20-2008 6:18 PM


Well, having already been chastised for excessive sanity, I shan't make that mistake again.
quote:
The evolutionists are demanding and arguing for euphemisms----that they will not allow human evolution to be described literally. These attempts admit that human evolution is an absurdity that must be sanitized.
Nuh uh!
Creationists are cretins!

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 62 of 93 (478908)
08-21-2008 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Cold Foreign Object
08-21-2008 9:47 PM


quote:
We have no idea as to what you are talking about.
We?
I think they need to step up the voltage on your shock treatments, mate.
And I think so, too.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 81 of 93 (478965)
08-22-2008 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Cold Foreign Object
08-22-2008 4:54 PM


Re: Nice to meet you Ray
quote:
If there is no evidence that contradicts evolution then you are saying that evolution is not falsifiable.
Not only do you display ignorance of the ToE, you are also demonstrating quiet clearly that you don't understand the concept of falsifiability. Falsifiability does not mean that there is in fact contradictory evidence. It means that there is possible evidence that, if found, would prove the theory wrong.
For example, there is no evidence that can disprove last Thursdayism, the idea that God made the world as it exists, including us, last Thursday, complete with implanted memories of events from before that time. Any possible evidence that you can imagine can be reconciled with last Thursdayism.
There are countless possibilities of evidence that could be found that would disprove evolution. I shan't waste my time giving examples as you have already amply shown that you don't understand the ToE anyway, so falsifying evidence would be lost on you as well.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 83 of 93 (478967)
08-22-2008 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Cold Foreign Object
08-22-2008 5:38 PM


Re: Nice to meet you Ray
quote:
It's a bad idea to play the "misunderstanding" or "you do not understand" card since, if objectively applied, could mean that you are the one who is misunderstanding evolutionary theory.
It's better to say that you disagree. It is a well known fact that Creationists and Evolutionists disagree.
That's sweet.
Nothing whatsoever addressing my main point, that you obviously don't understand what falsification is.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 89 of 93 (478976)
08-22-2008 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Cold Foreign Object
08-22-2008 6:36 PM


Re: Nice to meet you Ray
quote:
Your comments prove that it is you who does not understand falsifiability. The same simply means ideas and tests specifically produced and applied against a scientific claim to test its veracity.
Wrong, as usual.
Read here for enlightenment, if that's possible.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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