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Author Topic:   On Sowing and Reaping (Re: Science Education in Big Spring, Texas)
Deftil
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From: Virginia, USA
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Message 16 of 18 (478727)
08-20-2008 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by RAZD
08-19-2008 8:34 PM


It seems to be to be rather a lack of ability to use, understand and appreciate logic. It's like logic and fundamentalism can't coexist, science has nothing to do with it.
If logic can't coexist with fundamentalism, then anything that involves the application of logic is going to suffer. Science involves the application of logic, so it suffers in the presence of fundamentalism. So just like I said, science suffers and you've helped to prove my point.

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QED99
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From: Kansas City, MO
Joined: 04-20-2008


Message 17 of 18 (478807)
08-20-2008 9:45 PM


My first run-in with education in Florida was when my son came home one day from middle school and and told me that his science teacher told the class that the AIDS "bacteria" was spread by dumping infected diapers in local landfills which then contaminate the ground water, exposing everyone to the disease. "AIDS isn't caused by bacteria, is it Dad?"
My wife and I requested a consult with the teacher. We found her very nervous, so much so that she requested a witness (a social studies teacher) be present. When she was stuck for a truthful answer during our questioning, the "witness" interrupted several times with "Now Ms. X is a good Christian woman."
We gave up in frustration and appealed to the principal, who was also very uncomfortable. "Um, um, Ms. X has taught for 30 years." When we made it clear this wasn't going away, he assured us Ms. X would be retiring at the end of the year, and also agreed to move our son to a different class.
High school was better, only because our son took mostly AP classes, but one didn't have to look very far to see that many of the non-AP teachers weren't much better than middle school. Even so, I ended up "home-schooling" my son and several of his classmates in biology, chemistry, and physics a few evenings a week, just so they could do well in the ACT and SAT. My son, now very happy at UF, thanks me every time we talk.
Much of Florida's bad rep comes from north Florida, especially the northwestern panhandle, where educated kids leave and never return, and the rest become Bubba, just like daddy.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3373 days)
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From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 18 of 18 (478998)
08-22-2008 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by QED99
08-20-2008 9:45 PM


QED99 writes:
My first run-in with education in Florida was when my son came home one day from middle school and and told me that his science teacher told the class that the AIDS "bacteria" was spread by dumping infected diapers in local landfills which then contaminate the ground water, exposing everyone to the disease. "AIDS isn't caused by bacteria, is it Dad?"
First of all, I dare say that most people out there don't know the difference between a bacterium and a virus. This is why so many parents twist the arms of doctors to force them to give their kids anti-biotics for viral infections.
But more to the point... at least the teacher wasn't teaching that AIDS was god's punishment for gay people.

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