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Author Topic:   The world has turned upside down!!! (Re: McCain vs. Obama for President)
subbie
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Message 197 of 210 (479413)
08-27-2008 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Hyroglyphx
08-26-2008 7:46 PM


Re: Infanticide
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What Obama believes is that, if a mother had predetermined that the fetus be terminated prior to his/her birth, regardless of the failed attempt to take its life, the mother should still be guaranteed a dead baby.
Is this what he said, or is it your spin on the meaning of his vote? Forgive me, but I'm not inclined to rely on your description, unless you can cite a source attributing those thoughts to Obama. Can you find anything wherein he gives his reasons for his vote?
{AbE}
Someone is lying, either you or your source.
According to The Library of Congress website , it passed the Senate unanimously on 7/18/2002. That means that nobody voted against it, and the Senate voted on it more than 2 years before Obama even entered the Senate.
Curious.
{AbE - pt 2}
After a bit more research, I discovered that it was an Illinois version of a similar act that he voted against while in the Illinois legislature.
The closest thing that I've been able to find in describing Obama's actual motivation for his vote (as opposed to someone's spin on it) is this site, which purports to quote Obama. It's apparently a conservative blog, so I'm not going to vouch for the credibility of the website, but present it in the interest of as much accuracy as I can find in a quick search.
Edited by subbie, : A little bit of research on the claims made.
Edited by subbie, : A little more research

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subbie
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Message 205 of 210 (479500)
08-27-2008 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Artemis Entreri
08-27-2008 7:01 PM


Re: Infanticide
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The whole that is not in my pay-grade comment is clearly showing his ineptitude for handling this job,
Or perhaps he understands that this is a question that the Supreme Court has already answered, as far as the law of this country is concerned, and that there's nothing that a President can do to change it.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 207 of 210 (479552)
08-28-2008 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by Artemis Entreri
08-28-2008 8:58 AM


Re: Infanticide
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BTW the supreme court has said nothing about infantcide, nice try at glossing this over as a general abortion thing.
True, but then again, the question that he was answering when he made the pay grade comment didn't have anything to do with infanticide either, so I wasn't so much glossing over anything as I was responding on point to your somewhat off topic comment.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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