Can you please debate in your own words and not youtube links? Not all of us have access to youtube all the time.
You do realize that there were 2 bills right?
You also didn't respond to any of my other 3 points.
Those points were addressed in those links. Yes, there were two bills, one federal and one for the state of Illinois. They were basically the same thing. The one that passed in the Senate was done so unanimously before he entered in to office. Illinois had nearly a duplicate of the bill that he rejected. He shot it down, thinking that it would be tantamount to undermining abortion, which it doesn't. This is the same man that said about partial-birth abortion ban was
"a concerted effort to roll back the hard-won rights of American women."
When pressed where he would determine life, he gives an ambiguous answer, presumably because if he arbitrated between life or death on record, he would then have to answer to contradictions later down the road.
His response to when he thought a human being began:
"Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade." - Senator Obama
Really?!?! Above your pay grade, yet you are the one voting on these matters! You are the arbiter, as laws are passed through your legislation! We don't make laws, but you do! So you better have a better answer for that extremely important question, and if not, step down!
So when they call him out on his complicity for facilitating what any reasonable person would constitute as murder, he had to back peddle on his position and say that the wording of the bill was iffy. Yet there is a
mountain of evidence against him.
This is the bill that he shot down, verbatim.
Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, represented in the General Assembly:
Section 5. The Statute on Statutes is amended by adding Section 1.36 as follows: (5 ILCS 70/1.36 new)
Sec. 1.36. Born-alive infant.
(a) In determining the meaning of any statute or of any rule, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative agencies of this State, the words "person", "human being", "child", and "individual" include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b) As used in this Section, the term "born alive", with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c) Nothing in this Section [the bill] shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section.
Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon becoming law.
What part of the language didn't he like??? Where is the confusion?
Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : No reason given.
Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo
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