chicken legs Bush, or 'Watch your mouth'!

I'm with the hairy one above (post #8). I'm so totally out of touch with US-based media that I feel like a total idiot when someone mentions the latest US political whatever. I also subscribe to the Economist, and for the same reasons: it covers a lot of places like CEE, the 'stans, and Sub-Saharan Africa that US journalists never heard of let alone can't pronounce. When I get desperate, I tune in to CNN ("journalism by soundbite"), BBC World (more and more resembling their US cousins, apparently), and EuroNews (if I see one more day-long coverage of some stupid trucker's strike in France I'm gonna test the flight characteristics of my TV - I live on the fourth floor so it should be a valid experiment).Bottom line - I know nothing about Fox News except from what I hear people argue about, and I know even less about the liberal or conservative bias of US news media. I used to subscribe to both Newsleak and Useless News and World Distort (ostensibly to balance things out), but after awhile I couldn't find the energy to make the distinctions any more. Suggestions?

Although I have no idea who Bill O'Reilly is (except that he's some conservative talk show host), it is entirely possible that someone no older than I am could have been in four "wars" (using the term loosely) before GWI. If he was in Vietnam, it makes it even easier. Consider:1. Direct Military Intervention (ie, shoot-em-ups): Vietnam/Cambodia (the last real war), Lebanon (campaign medal: Order of the Sitting Duck), Granada (chicken stealing), Panama (chicken stealing again, but our own chickens).2. Other Military Intervention: Libya ("Bomb 'em back into the stone age. Ooops, too late"), Liberia ("What d'ya mean, 'they're eating our expats'? Get 'em out!)3. Military "advisory" missions: Bolivia ("This is corn. This is coca. We want you to grow corn, okay?"), Haiti (the most democratic country in the Western Hemisphere. By 2050, every citizen will have had the opportunity to be president at least once.), Honduras (erm, Nicaragua but not REALLY Nicaragua), El Salvador ("What death squads?")The more interesting question to ask would be "what did you do there?".edited to add "explanations" for our foreign friends who may not be completely up on recent US history.[This message has been edited by Quetzal, 07-30-2003]

Heh. I didn't say he didn't lie - I just said it was possible. Hell, if you include GWI on the list, I was directly involved in three myownself (Lebanon, Liberia, and GWI), and indirectly in a fourth (Libya - which was not just Air Force; Navy planes off of two carriers (I can't remember which ones) kept the Libyan Air Force at home by splashing at least two that came out to sniff around, and F/A-18s made it necessary for Qadhafi to buy a special-purpose glass bottomed boat from France so he could review his navy. )As to not the same units - never said they were. That was a list of conflicts. Marines played a significantly important role in Granada as well. Whatdyamean advisors don't count? Vietnam was an advisory mission at first, after all. Besides, I was making a list of all the little things our tax dollars paid for during the specified time: didn't mean that O'Reilly had anything to do with any of them. Like I said, I don't know anything about him. Is he like Ollie North (who has a radio show - or did - in Virginia)? Maybe he's just really old. Ya know, "There we were, on the banks of Antietam Creek..."