A Designer Consistent with the Physical Evidence

I contend that it is impossible to tell and thus irrelevant. An omnipotent designer that created the natural universe according to some infinite intelligence and with unknowable morality would be identical to an impotent and ignorant designer with no sense of morality. We only have one case study (the known universe) and as it stands it provides no indication that there is even a designer at all, much less specific attributes.Edited by Mylakovich, : spelling

If the frame of the hypothetical scenario is that:
1. There is a creator.
2. The natural world would not self-organize into systems were it not for the designer.
3. Sentient Life would not develop were it not for the designer.Then I would contend that the designers attributes would have to be Omnipotent, at least intelligent, and at least benevolent.Omnipotent, because he created every molecule of matter and every joule of energy from nothing. That by definition is infinite potency.At least intelligent enough to arrange the potential interactions of fundamental forces so that matter and energy form increasingly complex structures. He would not need to be Omniscient, he could simply be smart enough to make the initial conditions correctly.Benevolent, because the formation of life in the universe is not a given. A neutral god could have been content with interstellar hydrogen clouds and leave it at that. Life forms could have never advanced beyond self forming proteins, much less single celled organisms or intelligent life. Considering that neurological pathways are developed to the point that we can recognize non-traumatic emotions, a hypothetical designer would be in some way responsible, which elevates him above Neutral. However, considering that decay and death are an inescapable force in the world, he is certainly not Omnibenevolent.Caviat: All this is pure conjecture with three non-scientific axioms, and should not be taken as a valid reason to believe any of htis as actual facts.Edited by Mylakovich, : No reason given.Edited by Mylakovich, : No reason given.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : More blank lines.

Reading what you posted and reconsidering the criteria I am willing to downgrade my Designer from Omnipotent to Competent. We know that the designer is at least powerful enough to be able to create one universe. The universe as far as we know, is probably not infinite, that is, the is a very vast but finite amount of matter and energy. So a Designer does not need to have Infinite Potence to create one finite universe. Also, if he were infinite, he could make new universes every milisecond if he wanted with no detriment. Perhaps that is some kind of quantum alternate realities theory that could account for this, but for now let us consider one finite universe created once.He could actually be Omnipotent, but for whatever reason not display this power after a single creation event. It's logically possible.I am also willing to downgrade his benevolence status to Neutral. The reason for this is that when you consider the trillions of forms of life that have lived and died, only an infinitesimal amount of them experience have any meaning to their lives. For billions of years life forms has struggled to survive and only by the crushing weight of dead do any features emerge to help us. On the whole life is a brutish struggle for survival. Would a Benevolent designer design life to be this way? It sounds to me like cold, compassionless Mother Nature instead, where the fit exterminate the weak in a deadly game of kill-or-be-killed.So after all that I think we can successfully conjecture a god that is not Omni-level in any category.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Blank lines.