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Agobot
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Message 3 of 43 (480450)
09-03-2008 4:33 PM


As far as i can tell - the brain is just another tool for survival in the survival of the fittest game. In that respect it's not much different to claws, wings, fangs and poison. But with regard to power - it's the ultimate weapon that gives us humans the edge over all other species.

  
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Message 19 of 43 (480719)
09-05-2008 6:14 PM


The path to consciousness
Yesterday evening i stumbled on a very fascinating "event" - on the street of a local resort i saw a man carrying a small monkey, playing on his back. 5 min later another man came carrying a python. The monkey got soo scared at the sight of the snake, it started screeming in horror. It was unbelievable that an animal can get that scared.
This occurence reminded me why scientists nowadays think that our human language started off in Tanzania around 200 000 years ago in the form of ticking. Scientists think that homosapiens started ticking(and later developed other sounds) as way to warn other homo sapiens about an approaching... snake. Kenya and Tanzania are world famous for their diviersity of snakes and our ancestors had come into contct with deadly snakes all too often. That's when nature gave us the upper hand and homo sapiens developed ticking with their tounges, then more diverse ticking, then short sounds untill full language appeared. It's amazing how pressure from within the environment makes for the emergence of such new useful traits, that we utilised to the fullest. We built upon this new found weapon for survival and developed it into full language that facilitated the spread of knowledge and led to the rise of intelligence and consiousness in homo sapiens.
Anyway, it's funny to see this scene taking place now in the street, 200 000 years later. The occurence was so profoundly remarkable to me, that I plunged into thoughts for more than 30 minutes. It was almost like I travelled back in time 200 000 years and saw my grand parents in their own environment. Pure bliss.
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Agobot
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Message 22 of 43 (480726)
09-05-2008 7:34 PM
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09-05-2008 6:59 PM


Re: The path to consciousness
Agobot writes:
This occurence reminded me why scientists nowadays think that our human language started off in Tanzania around 200 000 years ago in the form of ticking. Scientists think that homosapiens started ticking(and later developed other sounds) as way to warn other homo sapiens about an approaching... snake. Kenya and Tanzania are world famous for their diviersity of snakes and our ancestors had come into contct with deadly snakes all too often. That's when nature gave us the upper hand and homo sapiens developed ticking with their tounges, then more diverse ticking, then short sounds untill full language appeared
Onifre writes:
Does sound very interesting and very logical. You wouldn't happen to have a link where I can read about this would you?
I don't have a direct link,sorry, it's from a book in Bulgarian. The book is French and is called "Historie universelle".
But I can give you links to other similar content(bear in mind I made a translation mistake - the sounds that early homo sapiens made were not "ticking" but "clicking", sorry about the mix up):
African click language 'holds key to origins of earliest human speech'
Page not found | The Independent
Generally speaking, just search for "click language", i think there is tons of info on that on the internet
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Message 25 of 43 (480754)
09-06-2008 5:37 AM


I'd have to agree with Onifre, people from 10 000 years ago were not aware of their surroundings to the extent that we are(as per the Oxford definition of conscious being equal to aware). There is no question about it. Just like we are currently unaware of what dark matter is, however, give it a few decades and we'll likely be. Knowledge and intelligence are both survival tools that give us the edge to survive for longer and to replicate in greater numbers(and still have the desire to live because of our discoveries and inventions that stem from our intelligence and knowledge).
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