Hi Syamsu,
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You still seem to be stuck with a concept of freedom that is not spiritual, that inhibits your understanding.
I think it's inhibiting all of our understandings. What other concept of freedom is there other than that which works in reality? I, and perhaps the other folks on this thread, don't understand what you mean by '
spiritual freedom'? You can't just combine 2 words like spiritual and freedom and hope they make sense to people.
Specifically what do YOU mean when you say '
spiritual freedom'?
So what decides is spiritual, and can only be known subjectively.
Well then if it can
only be known subjectively, then it will never be considered a fact. Subjective experiences are limited when it comes to verifiable proof. You just de-bunked your own theory.
You just need to follow common knowledge, in which goodness and badness for instance can make a decision, while we know we cant know good and bad objectively.
Im not following. Good and bad don't make decisions, people make decisions based off of their own subjective experiences, right? What determines what is good and bad is the rest of our subjective experiences of what that person did. Like lets say a devout Christian blows up and abortion clinic. His subjective expreinces with his faith lead him to believe that the right thing to do, based off of spiritual beliefs, was to blow up that clinic. The rest of society does not however, feel he was doing 'good', and therefore his subjective interpretation of the spiritual experience he had was deemed
WRONG by the sane members of society. So just because you
have a subjetive experience, it doesn't mean its correct...like with your subjective interpretation of what 'freedom' is.
As a side note: How can 'good' and 'bad' make a decision over someone? Wouldn't that remove a persons '
freedom' to decide?
So you see a brain does not decide at all really, nothing decides, that is objective fact.
I think this is where you are making your mistake, the brain is where every neural funtion happens, and therefore it is the only place where thought can exist. The brain receives information from its sensory funtions and then makes decisions based off of many many factors such as intelligence, past experiences, up bringing etc, etc. And
THAT is objective fact. Your sensory funtions and your brain are what makes you
YOU. Even subjective experiences require the sensory functions and the brain to do their thing. Decisions are mechanical funtions and a result of having a brain. So is love, laughter, hate, anger etc, etc. You have freedom because you have an independant brain with it's own sensory funtions experienceing the world around you and, because it is free from other brains, makes it's own decisions...and
that is what I would define as 'freedom'.
Conclusion: In
reality nothing without a brain can have freedom to do anything.
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