do you really Believe we are damned?

Jake22 writes:

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If someone "becomes a Christian" and then decides they're not satisfied, then either they are offering an excuse or they had never truly received the Holy Spirit.

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This sounds suspiciously like the test to see if someone were a witch: Toss the suspect into a river while bound hand and foot. If the accused floats, then the person is a witch for water will not accept a witch. Time to set up the gallows. But if the accused sinks, then the water is accepting and the person is innocent...and drowning.You're basically impugning the integrity of anybody who has left Christianity. Not a very nice thing to do. If you're not willing to accept other people as being honest about their personal revelations, why should people accept yours?------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Jake22 writes:

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Evidence is not characterized by universality of experience.

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Actually, that is precisely what characterises evidence: The fact that it works for everyone. If it only works for you, then it is a subjective experience and not evidence.The reason science comes up with accurate answers is because it is dependent on the results being replicated by independent experimenters. It isn't a question of "being there." After all, if we claim that the only way to know if something happened is if you are a direct witness, then the entire field of forensics goes right out the window. Instead, the question is whether or not you can duplicate the results. If you can, then you have just shown that the results are consistent with the process.If your results cannot be duplicated by independent observers, if they are only observable by you, then it isn't evidence.------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!