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Topic: chicken legs Bush, or 'Watch your mouth'!
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 31 of 53 (48057)
07-30-2003 3:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by Mammuthus
07-30-2003 4:10 AM
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Mam: I am from upstate New York originally and I coulds say the same thing about it as well. This is odd - so am I! Soccer hall of fame ring a bell?
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 32 of 53 (48058)
07-30-2003 3:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by Quetzal
07-30-2003 8:55 AM
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Interesting, but...
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Although I have no idea who Bill O'Reilly is (except that he's some conservative talk show host), it is entirely possible that someone no older than I am could have been in four "wars" (using the term loosely) before GWI. If he was in Vietnam, it makes it even easier. Consider:
1. Direct Military Intervention (ie, shoot-em-ups): Vietnam/Cambodia (the last real war), Lebanon (campaign medal: Order of the Sitting Duck), Granada (chicken stealing), Panama (chicken stealing again, but our own chickens).
Problem: It was Marines in Lebanon, Army in Grenada and panama, and not the same units. quote:
2. Other Military Intervention: Libya ("Bomb 'em back into the stone age. Ooops, too late"), Liberia ("What d'ya mean, 'they're eating our expats'? Get 'em out!)
Libya was an Air Force thing, and only a handful of F-111s were involved. quote:
3. Military "advisory" missions: Bolivia ("This is corn. This is coca. We want you to grow corn, okay?"), Haiti (the most democratic country in the Western Hemisphere. By 2050, every citizen will have had the opportunity to be president at least once.), Honduras (erm, Nicaragua but not REALLY Nicaragua), El Salvador ("What death squads?")
O'Really was on TV during Haiti, and 'advisors' don't count (unless you are a conservative trying to pump up your patriotism scale). quote:
The more interesting question to ask would be "what did you do there?". edited to add "explanations" for our foreign friends who may not be completely up on recent US history.
In the end, it is possible that he took part in 4 military exercises - providing he was in the Marines, the Army, and the Air Force. That or, far more likely, he is just a lying right-winger trying to make himself appear more 'rugged'...
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kjsimons
Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: 06-17-2003 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 33 of 53 (48063)
07-30-2003 3:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by nator
07-30-2003 12:28 AM
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Would that deli be Zimmerman's in Ann Arbor by any chance?! My parents live in Plymouth, MI and I went to U of M from 1980 to 1985.
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 34 of 53 (48076)
07-30-2003 4:20 PM
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O'Really has been in journalism for "30 years", according to himself on a C-Span book review clip I just watched. So, I think it is obvious that O'Really just plain lied.
No webpage found at provided URL: http://video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/ndrive/btv053103_4.rm?start=4:16:18&end=5:45:37 [This message has been edited by SLPx, 07-30-2003] [This message has been edited by SLPx, 07-30-2003]
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 35 of 53 (48077)
07-30-2003 4:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 34 by derwood
07-30-2003 4:20 PM
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In that same video, he also claims to have been a High School teacher... 4 wars... 30 years of journalism... High School Teacher... wow...
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Quetzal
Member (Idle past 5893 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 01-09-2002
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Message 36 of 53 (48137)
07-31-2003 5:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 32 by derwood
07-30-2003 3:18 PM
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Heh. I didn't say he didn't lie - I just said it was possible. Hell, if you include GWI on the list, I was directly involved in three myownself (Lebanon, Liberia, and GWI), and indirectly in a fourth (Libya - which was not just Air Force; Navy planes off of two carriers (I can't remember which ones) kept the Libyan Air Force at home by splashing at least two that came out to sniff around, and F/A-18s made it necessary for Qadhafi to buy a special-purpose glass bottomed boat from France so he could review his navy.  ) As to not the same units - never said they were. That was a list of conflicts. Marines played a significantly important role in Granada as well. Whatdyamean advisors don't count? Vietnam was an advisory mission at first, after all. Besides, I was making a list of all the little things our tax dollars paid for during the specified time: didn't mean that O'Reilly had anything to do with any of them. Like I said, I don't know anything about him. Is he like Ollie North (who has a radio show - or did - in Virginia)? Maybe he's just really old. Ya know, "There we were, on the banks of Antietam Creek..."
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: 08-09-2002
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Message 37 of 53 (48140)
07-31-2003 5:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 31 by derwood
07-30-2003 3:13 PM
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...more like "Ithaca is gorges"  ...like our famous EvC compadre Brad McFall
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Rrhain
Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: 05-03-2003
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Message 38 of 53 (48168)
07-31-2003 9:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 32 by derwood
07-30-2003 3:18 PM
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SLPx writes:
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That or, far more likely, he is just a lying right-winger trying to make himself appear more 'rugged'...
How dare you! Everybody knows the Right would never lie about such things! They are full of integrity!  ------------------ Rrhain WWJD? JWRTFM!
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 39 of 53 (48187)
07-31-2003 11:06 AM
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Q - I didn't say you said XY or Z. I just commented on your scenarios. Sheesh... No need to attack each other just because there are no worthy opponants around...
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 40 of 53 (48188)
07-31-2003 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 38 by Rrhain
07-31-2003 9:22 AM
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They are full of integrity! Full of what? I didn't hear you very well.
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: 08-09-2002
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Message 41 of 53 (48191)
07-31-2003 11:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 38 by Rrhain
07-31-2003 9:22 AM
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I guess the word integrity has changed its meaning since I was last in the US....oh well, time to head to the bathroom to take an integrity
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 42 of 53 (48192)
07-31-2003 11:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 41 by Mammuthus
07-31-2003 11:13 AM
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Hey Mam - did you know Hezy at WSU?
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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: 08-09-2002
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Message 43 of 53 (48198)
07-31-2003 11:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 42 by derwood
07-31-2003 11:15 AM
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I did not meet Hezy until I started working at the AMNH..he gave me some samples..and he was curating the L.cyclotis collection in my department..apparently before I got there he used to come to the museum with his pet hyrax.
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derwood
Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: 12-27-2001
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Message 44 of 53 (48233)
07-31-2003 4:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 43 by Mammuthus
07-31-2003 11:35 AM
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He and I were discussing writing a grant together at one point, but it sort of fell through - he ended up getting a fellowship of some sort to go to Eritrea. He is a good guy.
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nator
Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 45 of 53 (48249)
07-31-2003 7:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 26 by Mammuthus
07-30-2003 4:11 AM
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quote:
It would not happen to be the one that had import and export of hard to get foodstuffs...and had really famous sandwiches?
Why, yes, it is indeed!
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