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Minnemooseus
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Message 13 of 35 (482591)
09-17-2008 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Logic
09-17-2008 12:50 AM


A more enlightened religion?
If science classes suddenly have to teach creationism, shouldn't churches / philosophy classes have to teach evolution or something similar?
In the U.S. it's unconstitutional to force (or otherwise bring) creationism into publicly financed schools. Likewise, science can not be forced into the church, although the church could voluntarily bring it in. Any non-publicly funded school can mix religion and science if they wish.
Regardless of the above considerations, what advantage would there be to bring religion (creationism) into the science classroom? None that I can see. It might be possible to mix science and religion in some sort of (constitutional) comparative religions class.
What advantage would there be to bring science into the church? Well, if the church isn't afraid of how worldly reality might clash with their religious dogma, it might be good for the congregation to have better knowledge of worldly scientific reality. Especially for those churches that don't have a reality/dogma conflict, it might be a good thing to learn about how science and others religious dogmas conflict.
I think that it would be good for the non-extreme religions to have a greater awareness of worldly conflicts with extremist religion dogma and how it might/is influencing their community/country/world.
Moose
ps: Back somewhere in the late 70's or early 80's a local (Christian) geologist was doing a tour of area churches giving a talk on evolution. This included during the Sunday service at the Lutheran church I was then attending. As I recall, there was no obvious reaction from anyone in the congregation. Probably it would have been better if done after the service rather that within the service. Then maybe some sort of discussion might have happened.
Edited by Minnemooseus, : "I" to "It".

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Minnemooseus
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Message 15 of 35 (482610)
09-17-2008 2:59 AM
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09-17-2008 2:23 AM


Re: A more enlightened religion?
Regardless of the above considerations, what advantage would there be to bring religion (creationism) into the science classroom?
The advantage would be finding The TruthTM.
The advantage would be that there would be another lawsuit and court case that creationism would loose. This would shine further light on creationisms gross weaknesses in regards to fitting into worldly reality.
So, getting creationism into the public schools might well be the best thing that could happen, in the fight against anti-evolution.
Moose
"Even if millions of people believe in a dumb idea, it's still a dumb idea". - Unknown, but I first heard it via "Bloom County".

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