A Few Questions For Creationists

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How old is the earth (roughly)?
And how old is the universe?
How much have you yourself read or studied the Theory of Evolution?

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from the bibles point of view the earth and universe can be of any age. The bible itself does not give a limitation. I have no problem with science and it's dating. ( except that when their readings maybe effected, by other influences, like radiation , darkness, underwater, of pressure.) Other wise they maybe OK.
Enough to know my way around. But I do use my own meanings, for words.
When I say evolution I mean the start of a single cell to what we see today. Abiogenesis is the start to life including spontaneous life, because at one point non life has to come to life,. Which to the laws of nature are impossible.
The bible uses the word kinds , of life. we are not told in the bible exactly how far kinds goes.
Science uses the words species, but science does not agree exactly where the lines of species are.
I have heard that science does not prove anything. Which makes it impotent.
True science and the bible get along just fine.

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This part is obviously false if it is the basis of your argument. Faith based things are never proven. Faith is a belief in something that is unseen or unproven.

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That is what you call blind faith. If science can't prove anything then there understanding is blind faith.
In creation, design is the proof. It is not blind faith.

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There are a number of threads regarding design. Perhaps you should all take that subtopic there.

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I started a new topic, I call it the Dunsapy Theory. I want people here to try to rip it to shreds.it's here.http://EvC Forum: Dunsapy Theory -->EvC Forum: Dunsapy Theory a couple of questions on the forum format, can I select text an make it a quote with one click, or do I have to type the command [quote] around the text. The same with bolding?The other question is The new topic I started looks to me like in a protected place, does it get out to the regular board later, or what happens. Edited by dunsapy, : No reason given.

thanks RAZD
that helped.

The rabbits are life, life comes from life. This is a natural law.

That is blind faith,.
Real faith is the assured expectation, of something.
You cann't see wind but you can see the results of wind.
You have faith there is wind.

I started a new topic,
it's here
EvC Forum: Dunsapy Theory I would like to test out an hypothesis . I call it the Dunsapy Theory
It 's pretty simple, I have had some scientists are other try to break it but so far it's held up. I would like you guys to try.
This is it.If science did discover how life started and could show it by experiment.
All that, would prove, is that life needed intelligence to make life. A creator.
The only way to prove evolution and no creator,is to have everything the same as it was in the beginning. Then not interfere with it at all.So what do you think?

That is blind faith,.
Real faith is the assured expectation, of something.
You cann't see wind but you can see the results of wind. Wind is high pressure to low pressure , everything moves that can with it. You can't see the pressure, but it causes wind. you can't see wind, but you can see and feel the results.Now you have a creator, you can't see the creator, you can't see his energy, but you can see and feel the results, (of his creation.)
So... if this is not faith, then you are saying it is fact, (proof of a creator)?

Please explain.

But scientists doing the experiment only can show that , it takes intelligence to do it.
To show that it happened by itself you would have to find some uncontaminated place, and watch it happen. Scientists can not be involved. ( how do you know that a creator did not do it in the first place) and all the scientists are doing, is copying, his procedure. That would mean a creator.

DNA is also a set of instructions. A blue print of life. A design.
Can science show were any life came from non life or not by intelligence?
Science is now trying very hard to create some sort of life from non life. But all that can show is that it took intelligence to do it.

That maybe ok for water, but water is not life. Life is what we are talking about.
There are plenty of raw materials around.( I think that were made by a creator)

coragyps
RAZD
vacatethank you for help testing my theory,
I have started a new topic,The Dunsapy Theory and would really like to get it out of the black hole it is now in.
So If it not too much trouble could you please paste or comment over there? I would like to keep all the stuff on my theory to be under 1 topic.
RAZD I see you have done pictures as well so I hope this is not to much bother for you.
Thanks
dunsapyhere is the linkhttp://EvC Forum: Dunsapy Theory -->EvC Forum: Dunsapy Theory Edited by dunsapy, : No reason given.

It looks like they shut down my Dunsapy theory topic, so I guess I'll continue here. If that's OK

Actually I have done this on my computer. This is only a simulation. You can set up many parameters to simulate a river, science is pretty good at things like this.
But this is not making life. Science does not know exactly what the atmosphere was like before life. It does not know, the soil conditions before life. It does not know what materials were around before life. Now if science wants to say the atmosphere was like the the soil was like this, and try to mix some material around to see if it will become life.
They have only shown that it takes intelligence to make life. Assuming they were successful .