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Author Topic:   Why this story and not another?
doctrbill
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Message 10 of 52 (48436)
08-03-2003 2:30 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by THEONE
08-01-2003 8:53 PM


TheOne writes:
I think that Bible contains all of the important information about the world that we live in. Including process of creation.
Would you like to comment on the importance of the Firmament?
How about commenting on the process by which a female is cloned from a male?
db
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Doesn't anyone graduate Sunday School?

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doctrbill
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Message 18 of 52 (48460)
08-03-2003 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by THEONE
08-03-2003 6:09 AM


TheOne writes:
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters" (Beresheet 1:6)
Had you read the next verse, you might have understood the question.
quote:
"And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament." (verse 7)
Three ... forces permeate all existence. ... Right, Left and Central Columns.
What does this have to do with upper and lower waters?
The Firmament whose resistance produces illumination.
So, the Firmament reflects light. This was the high point of your argument - You actually mentioned the word.
Gehenom is commonly refered to as Hell.
Nice try at redirection.
How is that for a "Little Box"?
Your "argument" may sound powerful as it echoes within that confined space, but it sounds like gibberish out here.
... you still in your little box trying to prove that Shabbat was used for military training ...?
Now that you mention it - Are you going to address the evidences I listed for your consideration? The box I was in did not permit such questions. Does yours?
Since you apparently do not want to discuss the firmament's function in separating the waters, I offer the following commentary gleaned from Jewish literature (to which you may, perhaps, have access).
quote:
Gen. Rab. 17. God allotted a separate place to each body of Waters. Yet at the horizon they are parted by no more than the breadth of three narrow fingers. {Genesis Rabba, a midrash on the Book of Genesis, compiled in the fifth century in Palestine. Quoted by page of the critical edition of J. Theodor and Ch. Albeck, Berlin, 1912-27, 2 vols.} HEBREW MYTH, Graves and Patai, pg. 41
Can you hear me now?
db
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doctrbill
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Message 22 of 52 (48485)
08-03-2003 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by THEONE
08-03-2003 5:30 PM


Very entertaining, but, for whom was this message intended. Not me I think.
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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2785 days)
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Message 23 of 52 (48486)
08-03-2003 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by THEONE
08-03-2003 6:05 PM


TheOne writes:
That what I meant by saying your are not ready to understand.
I hear BS Ok, but you're right, I'm not even going to try understanding it.
Under the litteral text there are encoded secrets on how spiritual worlds shape and manifest themself in physical sense.
I've read some of those laughable "secrets," none of which contributed one iota to modern physics.
The thing you quoted deal with completely differen level of interpretation.
Yeah. Physical reality type interpretation.
according to my tradition,...
Enjoy your tradition. I'll enjoy my science.
... Torah has 48 dimensions (or levels of interpretation). It takes a life time of study.
Hope you won't be too busy to study reality.
Cute stories BTW.
db
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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2785 days)
Posts: 1174
From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Joined: 01-08-2001


Message 29 of 52 (48519)
08-04-2003 1:18 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by DC85
08-04-2003 12:26 AM


See message 19. The reason why you didn't see the reply is because TheOne did the same thing you did: - Replied to the wrong argument; Clicked on the wrong button.
Please think before you click.
db
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