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Rrhain
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Message 5 of 123 (484948)
10-03-2008 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Syamsu
09-29-2008 12:52 PM


Syamsu writes:
quote:
that means that within science ought and ought not are not material, but spiritual.
Since when was it decided that "not material" meant "spiritual." Those are the only two things? I think we have a fallacy of the excluded middle going on here.
It would help if you would define "spiritual."

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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From: San Diego, CA, USA
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Message 101 of 123 (486112)
10-16-2008 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Syamsu
10-16-2008 2:43 AM


Syamsu writes:
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You don't have any argument, much less a refutation. It is perfectly alright for a scientist to make subjective comments about beauty, and goodness and such, and attribute it to the spiritual, even in a science paper. But it is wrong for Darwin to talk about the less fit as less good, and the more fit as superior, because then he has blended ought with is. It is wrong for science popularizers to talk about the good being inherent in us by evolution as some kind of statement of fact. It is wrong for scientists to assert goodness, or the attribution of it, as a brainfunction. While ofcourse one can investigate things like the words used in morality, they are material things. But the words are used in reference to what decides, and scientists can't know about what goes on in people's hearts, except by judgement.
Yup. Same assertions. Slightly different words. No supporting argument made. No points, or refutations addressed. No questions answered.
Same old, same old.
As predicted.
[I hope you don't mind the use of your words, Straggler.]
Might you provide a single piece of documentation to support your assertions?

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Posts: 6351
From: San Diego, CA, USA
Joined: 05-03-2003


Message 107 of 123 (486258)
10-17-2008 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Syamsu
10-16-2008 2:03 PM


Syamsu writes:
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I already said, the blind pitiless indifference example was good enough, there is no use in bringig up more examples of evolutionists blending ought with is.
Yup. Same assertions. Slightly different words. No supporting argument made. No points, or refutations addressed. No questions answered.
Same old, same old.
As predicted.
[I hope you don't mind the use of your words, Straggler.]
Might you provide a single piece of documentation to support your assertions?

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 104 by Syamsu, posted 10-16-2008 2:03 PM Syamsu has not replied

  
Rrhain
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Posts: 6351
From: San Diego, CA, USA
Joined: 05-03-2003


Message 116 of 123 (486404)
10-20-2008 1:09 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Syamsu
10-19-2008 6:09 AM


Syamsu writes:
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So then you use 2 definitions for beauty, objective and subjective, but since the subjectivity doesn't apply to the spiritual, because you don't acknowledge the spiritual, your subjective applies to the material, and therefore your subjective is also objective.
So what happens then is that the great leader says that we all share the value of preserving our race, and we share the value of struggle with other races, which results in the best races to be preserved.
Yup. Same assertions. Slightly different words. No supporting argument made. No points, or refutations addressed. No questions answered.
Same old, same old.
As predicted.
[I hope you don't mind the use of your words, Straggler.]
Might you provide a single piece of documentation to support your assertions?

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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