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Author Topic:   Buz's refutation of all radiometric dating methods
Chiroptera
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Message 262 of 269 (486161)
10-16-2008 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Raedril Delvon
10-16-2008 11:36 AM


Re: Radiometric dating. -- It's good!
Hello, Raedril, and welcome to EvC.
You ask an interesting question:
You keep saying "yes the radiometric equipment needs calibration" Yah it does. But what are you calibrating it to??
Various radiometric dating methods are calibrated to the other radiometric dating methods. The different isotopes used (both parent and daughter isotopes) have very different chemical properties, so they will have different tendencies to migrate into or out of the crystals in which they are found, and they would migrate into or out of the crystals at different rates. Therefore, if this were a problem, then the different methods wouldn't give the same dates for the same samples. But different methods do give the same dates for the same samples, so this verifies that they are accurate.
Further, there are two processes of radioactive decay, alpha emission and beta emission. These rely on different laws of physics, and so there is no reason to think that any changes in the laws of physics would affect these two different processes in such a way that they would give exactly the same dates for the same samples. In fact, if these particular laws of physics were different in the past, there would be other effects that we should have been able to detect.
Finally, the geologic column was worked out by geologists well before the discovery of radioactivity. Radiometric dating basically confirmed what was already known by geologists, which would have been surprising if there were some significant problems with the methods.
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Also, if a world wide flood happened....
Well, since no world wide flood happened, the rest of your point is rather moot.
By the way,
...the chances of the radioactive material being right next to the bones are very small, and would take a good amount of time to get into the bones....
The "bones" are not dated directly by radiometric processes.
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The part about the half-life of isotopes relevant to geologic dating has already been dealt with by others.
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Now this part is off-topic, and the moderators here strive to keep threads on topic. But I will offer a comment on this:
It even says in plain words that the earth moves around the sun (Psalms 19:4-6)....
Here is Psalms 19:4-6:
quote:
...Yet their voice goes out through all the earth,
and their words to the end of the world.
In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun,
which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy,
and like a strong man runs its course with joy.
Its rising is from the end of the heavens,
and its circuit to the end of them;
and nothing is hidden from its heat. [NRSV]
Now this seems like poetry to me, so I think that it's asking to much to take these words literally. But if I were to do so, it seems to be saying quite plainly that the sun moves around the earth. (And verse 4 seems to indicate that the earth is flat, that is, it has "an end".)
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I hope you enjoy your participation here.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 265 of 269 (486208)
10-16-2008 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by bluescat48
10-16-2008 5:27 PM


Re: Radiometric dating.
Matter cannot be created or destroyed, Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but either can be change into the other.
And the Law of Conservation of Energy doesn't even apply to the "beginning of the universe" anyway.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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