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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
A few hours later and it depends on how North Carolina swings now I guess - though it looks like Fallacycop, shooting that little bit higher, is going to get it.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
McCain: 272 Obama: 266 Ouchhh...not even close bro!
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
McCain: 272 Obama: 266 Ouchhh...not even close bro!
Yea... McCain got SMOKED! it wasn't even a close race
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Yea... McCain got SMOKED! The power of the media bro, if it can make people stand in line over night for a cellphone, it can sway votes in any direction. Time for McCain to take a job as a Walmart greeter, with a little red vest giving patrons a thumbs up and telling them where the specials are! I could totally see that.
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Son Goku Inactive Member |
DrJones provides a badly needed voice of reason. It has been blatantly obvious from the beginning that both Obama and McCain are simply host bodies for Cthulhu.*
Obama/Cthulhu will now use the psychic energy released by joyous television viewers during his inauguration speech to create a portal between our world and the Elder realm, bringing his true form into our plane of existence. Goodbye America, you played right into the hands of the Dark One! * I do not wish to imply that I disagree with any of Cthulhu's policies. Reduced tax on transdimensional public transport has been sorely needed for the past decade.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2322 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Yes! Let us all join together and praise Dread Cthulhu! Those who follow him will be devoured last!
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! I hunt for the truth
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Reduced tax on transdimensional public transport has been sorely needed for the past decade.
I whole heartily agree, I also fully support Cthullu's "Followers will be eaten last" plan. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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fallacycop Member (Idle past 5548 days) Posts: 692 From: Fortaleza-CE Brazil Joined: |
The power of the media bro, if it can make people stand in line over night for a cellphone, it can sway votes in any direction.
You give people too little credit for their ability to decide who to vote for on their own. The media did not sway this election. The people did.
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fallacycop Member (Idle past 5548 days) Posts: 692 From: Fortaleza-CE Brazil Joined: |
Can I borrow your crystal ball, mate?
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Deftil Member (Idle past 4483 days) Posts: 128 From: Virginia, USA Joined: |
Well, looks like it will be 364 to 163, so congrats fallacycop.
WE'RE NOT WORTHY!
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
You give people too little credit for their ability to decide who to vote for on their own. The media did not sway this election. The people did. If that makes you feel safe, more power to you. But take a look at this link, maybe you'll change your mind as to the power of media persuasion and whether or not they know how to persuade properly. 404 Not Found
PROPAGANDA MEDIA
"Propaganda Media" is based upon "Psychological Operations Field Manual No.33-1" published in August 1979 by Department of the Army Headquarters in Washington DC; and "Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Media Subcourse PO-0816" by The Army Institute for Professional Development, published in 1983:
quote: I suggest reading the whole link to fully grasp the potential for media persuasion. Also, ask yourself why the US Military would want to know the psychological effects and advantages of media persuasion? Going as far as to have a field manual for it. Perhaps to get citizens behind going to war? Just food for thought. --Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given. "All great truths begin as blasphemies" "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
onifre writes:
quote: Which means if the media is liberal, how on earth did Bush get elected twice? Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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fallacycop Member (Idle past 5548 days) Posts: 692 From: Fortaleza-CE Brazil Joined: |
You missunderstood me. I don't deny the power of propaganda. Otherwise, what would be the point of spendding millions of dollars in canpaining? What I flatly deny is the idea that the media (as a whole) was partial towards Obama in this election. if anything, you had people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and others doing every thing they could to keep Obama from being elected. Show me one single media person who was as partial towards Obama as Hannity was partial against him.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
John Stewart...(from the Daily Show)
I didn't want to get deep into this debate but, I did not mean that the media has a liberal bias, in fact I hate that term. Nor am I saying that the wrong person won, however, im not saying the right person won either, im saying the person that was suppose to win won. Follow the media coverage of Obama from 2004 after his speech at the Democratic convention. In fact ask yourself why they choose him to give the keynote speech? This was beyond the media. The media is just a tool for special interest, in fact most of them are as much in the dark as we are, they are doing their job honestly, perhaps, at least the majority I would say. Dont deny the power of propaganda and the power of government control. Obama was suppose to win for reasons that are probabaly beyond our understanding, but his name, his features, and his background, in a time when the image of the US is horrible and with the EU pushing for globalization, Obama is the perfect poster child to represent the US. Those with interests in foreign affairs stand to lose alot of money if the US continues to be hated, Obama was the right choice, and the media got the people behind him. Again, im not saying this was a good thing or a bad thing but it was the right thing to do.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Which means if the media is liberal, how on earth did Bush get elected twice? The media isn't always the tool used for persuasion. Bush stole the first election, flat out. The second election, IMO, the democrats didn't want to win so they put the boring John Kerry up to run against Bush. The democrats stood to gain alot by Bush continuing his stupidity, and they did gain what they wanted, which was control of the House and Senate. 2 years later they win the presidency giving them the majority on all 3 branches. However, since I believe there is only one party, with 2 sections to maintain the illusion of democracy so the people still feel they have a valued opinion, I believe the whole thing is controled. Mitt Romney was the bettr choice to run against Obama, the only problem with that is he would have beaten Obama, or had a much better chance. So, they put McCain, the lesser of the 2. But, if you followed the polls during the middle of the campaign McCain was actually gain popularity, and was ahead on the polls, how do you fuck his whole campaign up? Sarah Palin. She guaranteed the lost to Republicans. Obama wins, the US is no longer racist, the middle east will start to like us better, things calm down and globalization can begin. This is all my skeptical opinion of course so feel free to ignore me completely- lol.
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