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Huntard
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Message 91 of 341 (488279)
11-09-2008 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Buzsaw
11-09-2008 11:29 AM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
Buzsaw writes:
Comment on this in his speeches? Are you kidding? He's no dummy. Why would he do that? He purposefully stated in at least one speech that some of his ambitions would not be realized in his first term as President. His is a long term stealth plan.
OBAMA, AMERICA'S FIRST STEALTH CANDIDATE, WILL BE AMERICA'S 1ST STEALTH PRESIDENT!
Then how come you know his plans? If they can't be found anywhere, how do you know with so much certainty that those are his plans? And if they can be found, why did no one else find them?

I hunt for the truth

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Chiroptera
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Message 92 of 341 (488281)
11-09-2008 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
11-08-2008 7:37 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
You do realize that you sound just like the classical conspiracy theorist, right? I mean, you're sounding like like lost-apathy on his World Trade Center Conspiracy Thread. You've jumped to a conclusion based more on your own insistence on how you know the world works with some dodgy "facts" to justify it, and no amount of contrary evidence is going to change mind.
What's more, I bet in the future, there are going to be a series that trivial incidents that are going to "confirm" your beliefs.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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kuresu
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Message 93 of 341 (488285)
11-09-2008 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by bluescat48
11-09-2008 11:35 AM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
quote:
Do you find conspiracy in everything {democratic/liberal}?
  —bluescat
There, fixed it for you.
And I would say he does. I for one would love to hear from Buz how the community service Obama wants to push forward is unconstitutional (13th amendment). I would then ask Buz is the draft/selective service is unconstitutional, and watch him twist their own logic to support a draft as constitutional but not community service.

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kuresu
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Message 94 of 341 (488286)
11-09-2008 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Straggler
11-09-2008 12:04 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
I'll donate a months wages to the next republican election campaign.
Out of curiosity, are you an american citizen? If not, you can't contribute. I'd recommend a better promise to Buz, one that you can carry out legally.

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Straggler
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Message 95 of 341 (488289)
11-09-2008 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by kuresu
11-09-2008 2:53 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
Out of curiosity, are you an american citizen? If not, you can't contribute. I'd recommend a better promise to Buz, one that you can carry out legally.
No I am not. Fair point. I knew I could not vote (obviously) which is why I didn't suggest that.
I did not know overseas contributions were also not allowed. Although with some thought this too would have been obvious. :
Maybe I could give the money to Buz's church so that they can contribute on my behalf. That way I can gain salvation and keep my side of the bargain
If Obama does set out to Islamisise the world that is.......

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DrJones*
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Message 96 of 341 (488300)
11-09-2008 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
11-09-2008 11:09 AM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
Methinks Obama has connections with some of the key players in the Arab world who are aware of his long term strategy. I could be wrong, though we know he does in Kenya, for example.
Since when was Kenya part of the Arab world?

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 97 of 341 (488301)
11-09-2008 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Rahvin
11-09-2008 1:10 PM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
Buz is just a racist in denial,
Not so much in denial, see:
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.
Message 177

soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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fallacycop
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Message 98 of 341 (488303)
11-09-2008 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Straggler
11-09-2008 3:03 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
Maybe I could give the money to Buz's church so that they can contribute on my behalf.
Churchs can't contribute either. And sendding money to someone (that can contribute) to have them contribute in your behalf is also ilegal. (What? didn't you think they would have thought of that?)

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fallacycop
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Message 99 of 341 (488305)
11-09-2008 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
11-09-2008 11:09 AM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
Obama's pick of Rahm was a wise and clever move, right off the bat. It would be foolish for him to begin the immediate undermining of Israel. The world body needs to understand that.
Buz, there are medicines out there that are quite effective against paranoid schizophrenia. You might wanna give them a try. Just saying...

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Rahvin
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Message 100 of 341 (488306)
11-09-2008 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by DrJones*
11-09-2008 6:41 PM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
I meant that he doesn't consider himself to be racist. But then, most racists don't.

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kuresu
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From: boulder, colorado
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Message 101 of 341 (488307)
11-09-2008 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by DrJones*
11-09-2008 6:41 PM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
Now I see why Buz is upset. Obama's black halve will float above his white halve. The muslim thing is just a distraction from his real dislike--Obama doesn't embrace his white side, or something like that.
Wait, what?
I will be so glad when we finally rid ourselves of the KKK* and it's legacies, and we may just be on the verge of this. A successful black president may just take the sail out of their winds. Granted, they'll just find something new to be bigoted about, although homophobia could simply be the latest iteration.
*KKK is used for emphatic effect. I am, naturally, talking about racists/bigots of any stripe. So if you're reading this buz, I am not calling you a member of the KKK, just an intolerant ass.

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Blue Jay
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Message 102 of 341 (488309)
11-09-2008 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by kuresu
11-09-2008 2:53 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
Hi, Kuresu.
kuresu writes:
Out of curiosity, are you an american citizen? If not, you can't contribute. I'd recommend a better promise to Buz, one that you can carry out legally.
Weren't there allegations that Obama had received foreign contributions? My parents were on about that for awhile (but, I've kind of stopped listening to them when they talk about politics: they're fundamentalist Christian conspiracy theorists, like Buzz).

-Bluejay
Darwin loves you.

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onifre
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Posts: 4854
From: Dark Side of the Moon
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Message 103 of 341 (488310)
11-09-2008 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by DrJones*
11-09-2008 6:41 PM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
Hi Dr. Jones,
You should have quoted this one too,
From "Horned Beast" post
Buz writes:
Imo, vanilla/chocolate swirl is cool with ice cream, but not as cool with races.
*Wow Buz, you would have brought a tear to the eye of the Grand Wizard with that gem.

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Buzsaw
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Message 104 of 341 (488313)
11-09-2008 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Huntard
11-09-2008 1:19 PM


Re: AMERICA'S STEALTH PRESIDENT
Hunter writes:
Then how come you know his plans? If they can't be found anywhere, how do you know with so much certainty that those are his plans? And if they can be found, why did no one else find them?
Most who voted for him don't know beans about his ambitions/plans or just don't care. Stealth requires research and study. You go by the givens, i.e. his speeches, and other communication, his history, his associates, his mentors, and the other givens in his life, such as his Muslim heritage. There's plenty of it out there for verification. Some, of course, is false or unverifiable. You itemize what is credible and go figure.
Hunter, your signature says you hunt for truth. If that's the case why are you going at this with your eyes closed? Did you bother to link into the UTUBE sites which I cited? It appears that either you haven't yet learned how and where to find truth or that you really don't want to acknowledge the truth.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 105 of 341 (488315)
11-09-2008 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by onifre
11-09-2008 7:44 PM


Re: LOW BLOW!
onifre writes:
*Wow Buz, you would have brought a tear to the eye of the Grand Wizard with that gem.
Why don't you cite the whole context of your quote mined bit and be fair, Onifre? I thought you were above this sort of character smear crap.
We all would have to agree that was either evolution or God who originated races, and you know, if you've been reading me that I am friendly with blacks and supported good blacks equally as with whites.
Take your racism charges to Obama, his 20 year last pastor, his mega-church full of blacks and their buddy, (one of Obama's likeminded neighbors) Louis Farrakhan of the black separatist/militant/supremist Nation of Islam, all closely related and admired by Obama's late church pastor and people.
If our new president elect was not racist why did he sit in (abe: with) and substantially support such a host of racists for all those years? Hmm???
Edited by Buzsaw, : change message title
Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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