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crashfrog

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Message 38 of 52 (48706)
08-05-2003 1:16 AM

Reply to: Message 35 by THEONE
08-04-2003 5:40 PM

The society you grew up in (I take it you grew up in U.S.) incorporated Moral Laws of Judaism into it's onw social structure.

If this is the case, why then have only 3-4 of the Ten Commandments ever been laws? That's less than half, which is weird if they're supposed to be the basis of our legal system.

The only laws that are shared between our system and the Ten Commandments are those laws that are so generally useful that they pop up in the moral codes of every culture that survives.

There was very few atheists about 300 years ago, you know.

Not among the founding fathers. Largely they were of the opinion that God took no actions in this world except to create it, if even that.

Koran (Islamic bible) says that if someone will come to your house and tries to convert you, you must take out your sword and chop the head of the imbasel (not in these exact words). Whanna scientifically prove that they are wrong?

(I think the word you wanted was "infidel", not "imbicile".) The Christian Old Testament says that Thou Shall Keep No Other Gods but Me, and perscribes death to any who break those commandments. What's better about that?

You think that you are smart enough, because all your life, since your birth, you were spoon fed God's morals through filter of a Social Behaviour based on His word.

That largely ignores the success of many cultures with moral codes with no connection to Judeo-Christian belief.

You will realize that all these things around you, are made of exactly the same thing. QUARKS.

If you're trying to set up an analogy of unity or something, you need to know that there's no less than six types ("flavors") of quark.

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Message 39 of 52 (48707)
08-05-2003 1:17 AM

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08-04-2003 11:45 PM

Name one empire of the time which had moral of not killing.

Why bother? We certainly don't live in one today... Or hadn't you noticed that our "empire" kills on a regular basis?

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Message 41 of 52 (48710)
08-05-2003 1:26 AM

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08-05-2003 1:18 AM

I mean thats all just Common sense if you going to live in a group. Since Humans are able to think and Learn they could figure out You Kill the Other People in a Group you die(you can't survive).

Well, it's probably much more likely to say that not every group of humans figured this out - and the ones that didn't, died out. Leaving only the groups who had established certain moral codes.

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Message 46 of 52 (48831)
08-05-2003 7:28 PM

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08-05-2003 4:42 AM

Exactly.

So, what you're saying is, all moral codes are from god, even the ones that predate His book?

Hell, why stop there? Why not just say that God is everywhere and everything? And everybody?

In any case, doesn't Unified Field Theory says that even those different types come out from one source? I know it's just a theory and not yet proven, but isn't it the direction of scientific thought?

Is there even a Unified Field Theory? I know it's the goal of science to have one, but to my knowledge we aren't there yet. So, the Unified Field Theory doesn't say anything about anything, yet.

Also, saying "just a theory and not yet proven" is an oxymoron. Theories aren't theories until they've been proven. "Hypothesis" may be the word you were looking for. But there isn't even a Unified Field Hypothesis, yet.

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Message 47 of 52 (48832)
08-05-2003 7:32 PM

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08-05-2003 4:56 AM

Maybe because it didn't incorporate ALL the commandments?

Well, either we're based on the Ten Commandments, or we're not. You can't pick and choose in Christianity.

If we're not using all the commandments it's much more likely that we're based on a larger, more universal morality that the author of the Ten Commandments happened to hit on a glimpse of.

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