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What does ID theory say?

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bluescat48
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11-12-2008 10:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 11 by Cold Foreign Object
11-12-2008 8:55 PM

Re: Design theory
ccording to a wide spectrum of polling data, half of all adults in the U.S. are antievolutionists;
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I don't wonder, given the fact that a large portion of the US population is ignorant to what evolution is, and even to what constitutes science.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-13-2008 7:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Cold Foreign Object
11-13-2008 1:21 PM

Re: Design theory
You are not willing to accept that evolution is rejected because it aint true; and that the level of support by Atheists tells anyone with a thinking brain that evolution is Atheism ideology packaged as "science." Since Darwinism presupposes Materialism-Naturalism, which disallow pro-God interpretations and conclusions, the reason why evolution is rejected is invulnerably supported. Atheists have made so called Christian evolutionists their fools and buffoons----I am impressed.
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What the H#LL does evolution have to do with atheism? Thinking brain? A person with a thinking brain, who can read, can figure just how logical evolution over creation/ID is. Evide3nce of evolution, no evidence of creation/ID. According to your definition of evolution, the Pope is an atheist. The only theists that I have seen that don't accept evolution are Fundies. I don't think that most theists would like to be referred to mas atheists, because they accept evolution over creation/ID. I'll accept science as defined by Nobel prize winners over fundies any day.
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Edited by bluescat48, : spelling
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-14-2008 7:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 38 by Cold Foreign Object
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Re: Design theory
Acceptance of ID and Creationism means you are intelligent, informed.
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No it means you refuse to accept evidence ILO scripture.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-14-2008 7:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 35 by Cold Foreign Object
11-14-2008 6:54 PM

Re: Design theory
Pope Benedict (IIRC) said the universe is an Intelligent project.
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Documentation please.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-14-2008 8:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Cold Foreign Object
11-12-2008 7:48 PM

Re: Design theory
We only seek to rescue science from the bad element: Darwinism, Materialism, Atheism.
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No you only want to revert to the dark ages when people thought that science & religion were the same thing. When people didn't attempt to question anything or risk being killed as being in league with the other non-entity Satan.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-17-2008 5:55 PM 		Reply to: Message 56 by Cold Foreign Object
11-17-2008 5:50 PM

Re: Design theory
Since the evolutionary explanation or interpretation is false the same is not science. Since the Creationism-ID explanation and interpretation is true it is science.
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Then explain how this can be when there is evidence for evolution but none for creationism/ID
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-18-2008 12:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Cold Foreign Object
11-17-2008 11:36 PM

Re: Design theory
Like Sgt Joe Friday says "The facts".
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As many adhearents of evolution have asked you and other creationists or IDers, Give some solid, scientific, falsifyable evidence of such. Thus far none have.
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Edited by bluescat48, : No reason given.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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11-18-2008 1:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 50 by Cold Foreign Object
11-15-2008 6:32 PM

Re: Design theory
Special creation, also known as independent or separate creation, is a scientific hypothesis that claims to explain how species are introduced into reality.
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Charles Darwin:
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"I can entertain no doubt, after the most deliberate study and dispassionate judgment of which I am capable, that the view which most naturalists entertain, and which I formerly entertained”namely, that each species has been independently created”is erroneous. I am fully convinced that species are not immutable" On The Origin Of Species (1859:6).
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If you are going to quote mine, it would seem feasible that you would mine something that agrees with your premise. Darwin's quote refutes your argument.
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