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crashfrog

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Message 46 of 52 (48831)
08-05-2003 7:28 PM

Reply to: Message 42 by THEONE
08-05-2003 4:42 AM

Exactly.

So, what you're saying is, all moral codes are from god, even the ones that predate His book?

Hell, why stop there? Why not just say that God is everywhere and everything? And everybody?

In any case, doesn't Unified Field Theory says that even those different types come out from one source? I know it's just a theory and not yet proven, but isn't it the direction of scientific thought?

Is there even a Unified Field Theory? I know it's the goal of science to have one, but to my knowledge we aren't there yet. So, the Unified Field Theory doesn't say anything about anything, yet.

Also, saying "just a theory and not yet proven" is an oxymoron. Theories aren't theories until they've been proven. "Hypothesis" may be the word you were looking for. But there isn't even a Unified Field Hypothesis, yet.

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Message 47 of 52 (48832)
08-05-2003 7:32 PM

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08-05-2003 4:56 AM

Maybe because it didn't incorporate ALL the commandments?

Well, either we're based on the Ten Commandments, or we're not. You can't pick and choose in Christianity.

If we're not using all the commandments it's much more likely that we're based on a larger, more universal morality that the author of the Ten Commandments happened to hit on a glimpse of.

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Message 48 of 52 (48865)
08-06-2003 1:26 AM

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08-05-2003 7:32 PM

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If we're not using all the commandments it's much more likely that we're based on a larger, more universal morality that the author of the Ten Commandments happened to hit on a glimpse of.

as I said its all sense (read my other 2 posts) I mean a god is not needed for that at all. To survive people needed to make rules. and we all know humans are smart enough to do so. theone I really do want to hear your opinon on this

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Message 49 of 52 (48904)
08-06-2003 9:32 AM

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08-04-2003 6:30 AM

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Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism never had Inquisitions or Crusades (actually in both of these "events" they were usually victims). That is another reason why I choose Judaism. It is just a bit less violent (to say the least).

You've said quite a bit about the morality of Judaism. While I agree there are some nice moral values in the Torah (and Christian holy texts), there is some royal crap in there too - such as the death penalty for minor infractions, adultery etc. and the acceptance of slavery. The fact that our modern values of "right" and "wrong" have changed substantially should clue you in to the fact that morality is not absolute. Morality changes with the times, and will continue to change as long as humans exist. On the other hand, God is supposed to be unchanging... hmmm.

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Message 50 of 52 (48909)
08-06-2003 9:50 AM

Topic Drift Alert!

Could someone please make the connection between the current discussion and the original topic? Thanks!

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Message 51 of 52 (48915)
08-06-2003 10:04 AM

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08-04-2003 6:30 AM

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* Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism never had Inquisitions or Crusades...

hmmm... read the OT lately?

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Message 52 of 52 (48927)
08-06-2003 11:36 AM

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Re: Topic Drift Alert!

we where talking about why he believes. and he said without a God there can be no morals. so if thats one of the reasons we are disscussing it

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