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Kringle
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Message 272 of 341 (490090)
12-02-2008 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by subbie
12-02-2008 12:00 AM


Re: Socialized Medicine
quote:
Trading Standards mean that if in order to sell something you claim it does something - you have to demonstrate that it does indeed do that something.
Some time ago, in the UK at least, there was an ethical discussion amongst medical practitioners for many years regarding the use of drugs purely for their placebo effect, sugar pills and such. The result was that it is not allowed, anything prescribed for a placebo effect is essentially illegal as it is ethically wrong, you are giving your patient something and telling them it is something else.
To the topic at hand, I am eternally grateful for socialised healthcare provided for me and my family on the NHS. My gradfather has had numerous heart attacks and heart operations all covered for him under it. I myself had meningitis, and as a result of the infection i also had septicemia, at a very young age and was seriously close to death. I needed braces for three years and the care that went along with that, i underwent surgery to remedy and prevent testicular torsion, i have broken numerous bones etc etc, the list goes on and on.
My family is the least well off when compared to all the people I know so we most certainly could not have afforded the care of my grandfather and myself. In short, without the NHS we would have been screwed.
Also as a side to Buz:
What alternative remedies would you have to meningitis, as a pharmacy student I would love to hear your suggestions. Do you have anything that would be better than, or even as effective as, pennicillin, chloramphenicol or cefotaxime? What part of the human immune or physiological system do these remedies act upon in order to fight the infection?
Let's say you, or a member of your family, got cancer. Would you put all your faith in holistic remedies or use conventional medecine if you have to? Let's say you got a type of cancer, if holistic remedies did not work and you had to use conventional medicine to save yourself you you be able to afford the treatment for it? Bearing in mind one injection in the treatment of colorectal cancer costs 240, one injection for the treatment of advanced head and neck cancer is 4400 for 5ml (yes, 4400)and one of the treatments for myeloid leukemia is 100mg of a certain drug, twice a day totalling 170 a day.
I do not mean to come off as accusing here, i just have no fondness for alternative medicines that have not undergone the rigourous clinical trials that all other drugs must go through. Also being a pharmacy student, my salary will eventually mostly come from the NHS so i have some fondness for it
Also I would like to say hello to everyone at this site. long time reader, first time poster.
Added by edit: I would also like to congratulate all the americans that are happy about the appointment of of Obama as POTUS and to all those that are against it: just wait and see please, he is not a secret muslim terrorist and he will not destroy your country.
Edited by Kringle, : Quick addition

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