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whaler777 Junior Member (Idle past 4371 days) Posts: 12 Joined: |
I never heard anything from evolutionist side that when you die what happens then. Could someone elaborate on this theory.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Hi whaler777,
It depends which evolutionist you ask. Evolutionist is not a synonym for atheist. Most people who believe in in evolution are religious. Ask a hundred evolutionists and you'll get a hundred and one different answers. The Theory of Evolution itself is not concerned with life after death. Myself, I don't believe that anything happens to you after death. When you die there is no more you. Our sense of self is an emergent property of our brains; no brain, no you. Of course, I actually am an atheist, so that's what I was bound to say. Mutate and Survive "The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I never heard anything from evolutionist side that when you die what happens then. That’s because there is no one philosophy about death. Religiously inclined evolutionists tend to believe along the lines of their faith. Those that are not so inclined have various beliefs. All in line with what we would expect from millennia of human philosophical thought. Evolution does not harbor any philosophy vis--vis death.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
1. If I were an evolutionist, logic would call for some explanation for the wide gap of intelligence between humans and other living things (abe: relative to life and death).
Off topic material hidden. 2. If I were an evolutionist I would seriously pursue the phenomena of religion in that throughout the recorded history of humans all cultures have been religious. As an evolutionist this would be a puzzling thing in that this propensity has evolved exclusively into the human brain. This along with the phenomenon of good and evil would lead me to investigate the legitimacy of religions relative to life and death questions. 3. If I were an evolutionist I might be bothered by the fact that humans have the power over all other living things to manage their lives in whatever way man determines to do. The reason this would bother me is that the Biblical record declares in Genesis that that would be the case. 4. If I were an evolutionist the mystery of how evolvement of good and evil has affected humanity socially, morally and other ways would raise the pursuit of an explanation for this phenomenon relative to life and death of the intelligent human species. These are a few concerns that would motivate me to search out the claims of major religions to determine whether this intelligence unique to humans equates into the likelihood of an immortal soulish aspect of humanity which has been designed in the image of a designer creator as the Bible states and thus what happens to the soul when the body dies. We observe that new life emerges when the seed of the plant dies off and it's seed is buried to raise up a new plant. The question thus arises as to whether the soul of mankind dies or like the dried up seed, does something relative to it raise up again. Perhaps some or all of the above might serve to question, in the evolutionist mind, the ToE naturalistic PoV. Perhaps also this would be cause to worry about the (abe: life and death) consequences of insulting a supreme creator by crediting nature for what the creator designer expects and/or requires praise for.
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted Edited by AdminNosy, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Buz, if you were an evolutionist, do you think might just about be able to grasp the concept of topic?
Mutate and Survive "The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
GM writes: Buz, if you were an evolutionist, do you think might just about be able to grasp the concept of topic? Hi Granny. Nice to have you around. Note my two edits in parentheses, one posted at the same minute you posted and the other subsequent to your complaint. Those are some of the concerns I would have as an evolutionist relative to life and death. Perhaps some of my points will be mind provoking to some evolutionists relative to this topic. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Shield Member (Idle past 2890 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Buz, i am not a mod, but would you please stop posting irrelevant content in this thread?
On the topic: I am not an evolutionist, like i am not a gravitionist. Evolution is a scientific theory, backed up by evidence from various fields of modern science. Evolution has no meaning what so ever on my beliefs regarding spirituality or mysticism. I am an atheist though. I am certain, because i have never seen anything that shows anything else, that when i die, i simply cease to exist. The physical body dies, your brain stops signalling, everything stops. I have had other beliefs during my life, but this is what evidence has shown me. Edited by rbp, : No reason given.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Rbp, I suggest that if you're not a mod, you do your thing, I'll do mine and the admins can do theirs relative to what is considered admissible to topic.
Done. If you post more like it I'll suspend you. Edited by AdminNosy, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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fallacycop Member (Idle past 5548 days) Posts: 692 From: Fortaleza-CE Brazil Joined: |
Whaler777, the theory of evolution has nothing to say about what happens after death. that's not it's porpose. You are free to believe in haeven and hell or whatever you think happens after death, as far as evolution is concerned. Evolution is not a relegion. it is a scientific theory.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4045 Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
I never heard anything from evolutionist side that when you die what happens then. Could someone elaborate on this theory. Your question implies a false dilemma. Acceptance of the theory of Evolution has absolutely no bearing on religious views concerning the afterlife - make people who agree that the evidence overwhelmingly supports the Theory of Evolution also believe in an afterlife. Many of them likely believe in the same afterlife you do. Others have other religious beliefs, and others have no religious beliefs. The Theory of Evolution is a model that explains the diversity of life. It has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone's belief concerning the existence or properties of an afterlife. Evolution speaks to what happens after we die as much as it speaks to the orbit of electrons in an atom: not at all. The only reason evolution has an impasse with some people on religious grounds is because it contradicts a literal reading of various religious creation myths, including the Judeo-Christian Genesis myth. But this false dilemma suggesting that those who accept evolution might not believe in an afterlife belies extreme ignorance on your part.
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Deftil Member (Idle past 4483 days) Posts: 128 From: Virginia, USA Joined: |
I never heard anything from evolutionist side that when you die what happens then. Could someone elaborate on this theory.
Just like everybody else, we don't know for sure. I'd say nothing probably happens after you die. But accepting evolution doesn't necessarily imply any set of religious or spiritual beliefs. The scientific theory itself says nothing on the topic. Edited by Deftil, : No reason given.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I never heard anything from evolutionist side that when you die what happens then. First point - as you have been told already - there is no such thing as an evolutionist. My friends who are both born-again Christians and scientists (and thus obviously accept the theory of evolution as the scientific explanation for the origin and diversity of species) believe that they will be in Heaven (or equivalent depending on their particular thoughts of end-times theology) Other friends who are atheists think that conciousness simply stops and there is nothing more. What do I believe? It's complicated
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I don't believe in the supernatural so I'm inclined to believe that there is nothing after your brain checks out.
That said, science is tentative so if we get data that shows there is some form of existence after death we can re-evaluate our position.
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CK Member (Idle past 4155 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I'm an evolutionist and an atheist.
Here's my guess - when you die, your corpse rots. I think that about covers it.
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