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Author Topic:   Evolutionarily Drawn to Nature?
onifre
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Message 15 of 40 (490726)
12-07-2008 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by yetman
12-06-2008 10:21 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
Hi yetman,
Consider this: If you were given four hours to relax, and you could choose to spend your time in one of these two places, which would you pick?
a) A big, luxurious hotel, all to yourself, completely isolated from society. Maybe it has a gym inside it, or a spa. However, there are no windows and no depictions of natural scenery whatsoever.
b) A place in nature. Maybe an empty beach, or some place in the wilderness.
I'd like to hear everyone's answer to this hypothetical situation. Please share your thoughts, I'm very interested in this subject.
I travel a lot, im on about 6 flights per month. There is nothing like walking into a 4-5 Star Hotel, stepping foot into a high-end suite, and ordering room service while watching tv in your boxer shorts. Then, laying down on a plush king size bed and getting under a goose down comforter. It's simply an awesome feeling after a long flight.
However...
With that said, I just came back from fishing in the Florida Keys today, (suffer Northerners! It was 80 degrees today in Miami ), and there is something beautiful and relaxing about drinking a beer on a boat and fishing that I don't think you can get from any top Hotel suite.
If I had to choose, I'd say the beach or the ocean.
Edited by onifre, : spelling

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 22 of 40 (490802)
12-08-2008 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by RAZD
12-07-2008 7:06 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
Hi RAZD,
Today we had 2" of snow and it was wonderful to be back where people had weather
Not that waking up to snow isn't beautiful, it is, but im Cuban raised in Miami, we aren't a people who are fond of the cold for too long.
Nothing like sleeping out under the stars in a -40 bag laying on top of the snow (I tend to be a minimalist LNT camper).
No doubt that camping is only enjoyed in cool/cold weather. I don't know if I'd enjoy laying on top of snow but, I can appreciate the peaceful beauty of it.
I too am a LNT style camper.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 23 of 40 (490804)
12-08-2008 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by DevilsAdvocate
12-07-2008 8:16 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
Hi DA,
My best hotel experience was getting paid by the Navy to stay at the five star Gulf Hotel in Bahrain.
One of the comics I know is part of Comedy Centrals "The Watch List"...
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...and they frequently perform in Dubai(and all over the Middle East too). He told me the Middle East has some of the finest hotels in the world. 7 Star hotels!
I took a look at the link to the one you stayed at, looks amazing.
The bed was bigger was almost like two california kings side by side. I am 5'10" and I could lay across the width of the bed with arms outstretched and not touch either side of the bed. Also the dining was out of this world. I must of gained 20 lbs eating at a different restaurant inside the hotel every night: american food, japanes, chinese, international buffet and a english pub. Plus a fabulous pool to boot. Some of the best 30 days of my single life.
Isn't it amazing that a species who evolved outdoors takes so much pleasure indoors?
And, yea, I bet it was an amazing experience as a single man in such luxurious settings.
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 27 of 40 (490983)
12-10-2008 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by cavediver
12-10-2008 5:48 AM


Re: Are people part of nature?
Then again, there is always that moment of waking in a bag and realising that goretex will not prevent a newly formed river from flowing through your bag
,
That would never happen at the Ritz Carlton. Then again, I've seen some crazy things happen in hotels so I guess there's an equal trade off.

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onifre
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Message 31 of 40 (492000)
12-25-2008 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by RAZD
12-07-2008 7:06 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
I just wanted to take back my 80 comment.
I just spent, and am still currently enjoying, Christmas in NYC. The snow, the weather, the streets with the people, its all very festive and true to the seasonal emotion.
I've spent most of my Christmas holidays in Miami, this one has to be the best one yet.

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onifre
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Message 35 of 40 (492089)
12-28-2008 5:11 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Taz
12-26-2008 3:19 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
Try to think of it from my perspective. You guys wave around a phrase like "back in the 50s..." while I tend to think of it as ancient history. I'm still waiting for the BIG 30.
I'm right there with you Taz, when I first got to this forum I too was taken a back with phrases like that. lol
I just hit the BIG 33, it's no fun. I'm pretty sure 60 sucks too but, 33 sucks right now.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 39 of 40 (492241)
12-29-2008 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by bluescat48
12-28-2008 10:00 AM


Re: Are people part of nature?
I find that people my age (60ish) tend to relate more to the 50's & 60's than to the 70's and beyond.
IMO the 50's and 60's were more influential than the 70's and 80's.

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onifre
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Message 40 of 40 (492243)
12-29-2008 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by bluescat48
12-29-2008 3:17 PM


Re: Are people part of nature?
I don't recall ever seeing a beaver using a cement mixer or a bird using a chainsaw.
I think what petro meant was that our ability to think and process gives us the natural ability to create tools to ease or work.
We are a part of nature, anything that stems from our naturally evolved traits is too a part of our natural world.
I would, if I could, ask a beaver or a bird if they would prefer a chainsaw rather than their teeth or beaks, respectively. I think they would say "yes, please, I'm tired of this chewing on bark shit". lol

"All great truths begin as blasphemies"
"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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