Evolutionarily Drawn to Nature?

I just wanted to take back my 80 comment.I just spent, and am still currently enjoying, Christmas in NYC. The snow, the weather, the streets with the people, its all very festive and true to the seasonal emotion.I've spent most of my Christmas holidays in Miami, this one has to be the best one yet.

It amazes me how old you guys are... May I ask what the hell you are talking about here?

Why should it amaze anyone? These forums tend to have people of all ages and mentalities.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Try to think of it from my perspective. You guys wave around a phrase like "back in the 50s..." while I tend to think of it as ancient history. I'm still waiting for the BIG 30.

I'm right there with you Taz, when I first got to this forum I too was taken a back with phrases like that. lolI just hit the BIG 33, it's no fun. I'm pretty sure 60 sucks too but, 33 sucks right now.

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"All great truths begin as blasphemies""I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

Actually, I feel that it is somewhat inherent that people tend to relate more to their formative years than to their adulthood. I find that people my age (60ish) tend to relate more to the 50's & 60's than to the 70's and beyond. The 70's, 80's. & 90's are like a blur. I think this could be the movement from innocence to the reality of life.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

In 68 I was working in a steel mill and had a friend Danny there who's dad was dead but who's grandfather was still alive. He was 105 years old. When he told me this I suddenly realized that his grandfather was alive while Lincoln was president.Now that's ancient history.Tents in the past had no floor so you had to dig a small trench around the tent to keep the rain from flowing under the wall and onto the the ground inside. Always best to make it so the water drained away.BTW I don't regard beaver dams or lodges or birds nests or bee hives as unnatural. Since man is part of nature I don't regard his buildings or the civilization he has built as unnatural either.Man being a special creation outside of the natural world appears to be a religious idea, although it appears many atheists seem to feel this way as well. At least they seem to remove or regard man's creations as being outside of nature.Happy New Year

not unnatural but made with naturally occurring objects. Human structures require, for the most part, an alteration of the natural substances, ie: smelting of metals, processing of wood, making cement.
I don't recall ever seeing a beaver using a cement mixer or a bird using a chainsaw.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

IMO the 50's and 60's were more influential than the 70's and 80's.

I think what petro meant was that our ability to think and process gives us the natural ability to create tools to ease or work.We are a part of nature, anything that stems from our naturally evolved traits is too a part of our natural world.I would, if I could, ask a beaver or a bird if they would prefer a chainsaw rather than their teeth or beaks, respectively. I think they would say "yes, please, I'm tired of this chewing on bark shit". lol

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"All great truths begin as blasphemies""I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky