Thank you for the exchange Peg.
We can only speculate on what might have happened had Adam not followed his wife into disobedience. But there are a few facts we could consider to decipher a very possible outcome.
Speculating outside of the parameters of the text produces theology. Theology is basically what the serpent offered Eve; a clever work over of the Word of the Father. The present opinion values actual scripture more than it's predisposed counterpart. Is it better to listen to the Word of your Father who loves you, or is it better to listen to another?
Eve was the first to eat from the fruit, but notice how God did not appear to her immediately to ask her what she had done. It was only when Adam had eaten from the fruit that God came to speak with Adam.
Had they had not been married together, or if they 'awakened' separately, perhaps this point would maintain relevancy. The Father has united the two as one, and refers to them as 'one flesh'. Within the narrative, the Lovebirds 'awakening' occurs simultaneously; they are approached by the Father in the same way.
God knew that eve had been deceived by the serpent because the apostle spoke of this centuries later when he said
1Timothy2:12 'I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.
Be a good christian and stop posting then - lol
Peg - could not resist; I Love ya & I'm totally kiddin'
So lets say that Adam did not follow her into disobedience, God would have had no reason to punish him with the consequences of sin (death) So that just leaves us with the question of what might have happened to eve.
The Father of Love does not punish the ones He Loves; the sooner this is established in reality, the sooner He will be exposed. The True guilty party is the serpent and it remains the only entity, besides 'the ground', to receive direct punishment within the Eden narrative. Below is evidence that Adam and Eve were not 'punished', as the Judges so often claim.
* Woman is authorized to cause the serpent to headbutt her feet (Gen 3:15).
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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* The woman is again and still warned of discomfort she must experience (Gen 3:16). The pain cannot be 'greater' (to her), as she has no initial basis of comparison for child birth. Very early on the man was given dominion over creation, within which Eve must be reasonably included. Additionally, there is no precept, as with Adam and the serpent
(ie. 'cause you did this, omma do dat ...), indicating this as anything other than a prophetic utterence. Prophecy is not punishment - lol
He said to the woman, "I will increase your pain and your labor when you give birth to children. Yet, you will long for your husband, and he will rule you."
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* A consequence seemingly intended for the man is deflected to the ground where the serpent crawls on his belly eating dust, while man continues to fruitfully multiply and subdue the recently thorned and thistled earth with his snazzy new leather pants (Gen 3:17). As if the Father did not do Adam a solid by deflecting any and all 'punishment', the leathers further protect him from the ground that absorbed the impact. In this way, he is much less inclined to snag his private bits out in the field.
Because the man listened to his wife and ate from the 'evil' tree, the Father deflects his punishment to the ground and gives him leather pants. Nice punishment - lol
Wish I could be 'punished' like that; I get whacked with a wooden spoon! If only they pay attention to scripture they may see a better way.
Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life
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* The Father declares the one who was deceived to become the mother of all the
LIVING (Gen 3:20); not to be confused with the mother of the 'dead & evil & declining'. You were a bad girl Eve; how 'bouts I make you the mother of all the living as a punishment ...
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
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* The couple, and all of civilization, are safegaurded from any chance of a destructive person living longer than necessary (Gen 3:22,23). The Father arranges reality in such a way that adulterous murderers cannot live forever.
Then the LORD God said, "The man has become like one of us, since he knows good and evil. He must not reach out and take the fruit from the tree of life and eat. Then he would live forever."
So the LORD God sent the man out of the Garden of Eden to farm the ground from which the man had been formed.
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If she was decieved but repentant, God may have shown her mercy and forgiven her, allowing her to remain with Adam in the garden...or he may have ended her life immediately and provided Adam a new wife
lol - what scripture are you drawing from? Eve was deceived (Gen 3:7)
and repentant (Gen 3:13)(Gen 3:21). The verses exposing the Father's lovingkindness justice have been presented above for all to admire. Eve is first
shown mercy (Gen 3:13-15,17-19), then
prophecied over (Gen 3:16),
blessed (Gen 3:20),
forgiven & covered (Gen 3:21), and
allowed to remain with her husband (Gen 4:1). This is how the Father of Life rolls; nobody can stop Him. Not the 'devil' or 'christians' can change His tune.
One thing we do know for sure is that if neither of them had fallen from Gods favor, then ...
... there would be no value to associate to the Son of the Father of Life.
Does this somehow seem like a pleasing alternative to reality?
Do not despise what the Father has revealed, nor quench the Spirit of Love. Instead, test & examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
Judgement closes our eyes to evidence; the Father as asked us to judge not according to appearance, but establish righteous judgment. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of the Father. He allows and encourages us to be thankful for
All things; in this way, our eyes become opened.
Do you see?
One Love
I'm not here to mock or condemn what you believe, I'm just a fool playing with ideas.
My only intention is to tickle your thinker. Trust nothing I say. Learn for yourself.
Think for yourself.
Mercy Trumps Judgement,
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