Why did they cover their nakedness?

Hi, Jaywill.Perhaps this is a little off-topic, but I'm curious how you would respond to these questions:If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the fruit, what would have happened? Would we all be living in the Garden of Eden right now? My church maintains that we would not have existed, because procreation was not possible until after the Fall (maybe they didn't even have reproductive parts to be ashamed of?---that's a weird thought).If Adam had refused to follow Eve and get kicked out of the Garden, what would have become of them (and us)? Would God have had to create a new husband for Eve (or wife for Adam)?In other words, could God's plan for us have been fulfilled if Adam and Eve had not been kicked out of the Garden?If not, how could Adam's Transgression be anything but the fulfillment of God's plan?

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I'm Bluejay.Darwin loves you.

Hi, Peg. It's an open forum: anyone's welcome. ----- I don't agree that this points to their ability to reproduce right away. They are (as Taz likes to say) children, after all. The Mormon argument goes like this:

Mortality (and reproduction) was necessary for God's plan to be fulfilled

Mortality (and reproduction) could only come about by disobedience

Therefore, in order for God's plan to be fulfilled, somebody had to disobey God

Therefore, God gave Adam and Eve contradicting laws ("reproduce and "don't eat from the tree") so that they would have to break one

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Kind of sucks, I know, but it kind of makes sense in a roundabout sort of way. We Mormons are usually very careful to admit that we don't know for certain, though.

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But, it also explains why 1 Timothy (the scripture you quoted) says that Adam wasn't deceived: he knew exactly what he was doing, and he did it on purpose, because God's plan required it of him. In the Book of Mormon, we have:

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"Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy"

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-2 Nephi 2:25

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I've never actually heard it claimed that Adam and Eve didn't have gonads in the Garden, but I have heard it claimed that their gonads were non-functional, like a pre-pubescent child's. So, Adam and Eve were unable to reproduce until after the Fall.

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So, basically, God set Eve up, and the serpent informed her of this, and she gave in to his temptation. And, after Eve took of the fruit, Adam knew he had to as well.

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Peg writes:

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One thing we do know for sure is that if neither of them had fallen from Gods favor, then they would still be alive today as the original parents to all of us... and quite a few billion more people... and the whole earth would be a garden of eden.

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I contend that you do not know this at all.

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I'm Bluejay.

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Darwin loves you.

Hi, ICANT. Yeah.But, I think everyone else has covered that one well enough that it didn't need to be repeated by me.----- They'd have to be on some pretty spectacular drugs not to notice that there were differences, I think. But, you might be somewhat right: maybe they just associated the "differences" with the other personal traits that they used to distinguish one another.Who knows, really?I'm not married to a particular interpretation (forgive the pun).

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I'm Bluejay.Darwin loves you.