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Author Topic:   What i can't understand about evolution....
seekingfirstthekingdom
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Message 213 of 493 (492972)
01-04-2009 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Blue Jay
01-04-2009 9:32 PM


thank you for the on topic post mantis
quote:
The evidence we have right now indicates that there was only one initial ancestor.
Permit me to utterly annilihate the horse im riding on.I feel bad once again emphasing that evolutionary supporters make assertions like this.You cant show me this in the fossil record.You cant show me this in the natural world.Nothing is even remotely like this animal.You cant even replicate it using the smartest biologists and the greatest minds.The only place it exists is in evolutionary textbooks. I understand the human fallibilty element that you are claiming and im trying to show respect despite not being shown much because of my beliefs .However evolutionary science by its very definition totally removes any chance of an intelligent designer.Unlike you guys im actually quite relaxed about the possibilty that yall could be right and that darwin and dawkins will be names lauded to time indefinate.However i dont honestly think you guys like the idea that people like me could be right.Occams razor you say.Yeah you bet.
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seekingfirstthekingdom
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Message 224 of 493 (492998)
01-05-2009 4:54 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by kjsimons
01-04-2009 9:47 PM


quote:
WTF! By your reasoning, if you can't 'replicate' your great great great ... grandfather (or mother), then they never existed.
This example has been used before.Please dont compare your human great great grandfather with single celled organisms.That comparison is hard to fathom.I guess your superior education has also given you a much larger imagination.

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seekingfirstthekingdom
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Message 225 of 493 (493000)
01-05-2009 5:02 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by Blue Jay
01-04-2009 9:52 PM


quote:
Will you acknowledge that evolution does not require all life to have arisen from a single common ancestor?
If not, will you at least explain why you will not acknowledge this?
I acknowledge it.In fact you might have noticed i firmly believe its impossible.This has been re-emphasised by the various replies given varying from "you're an idiot" to "lets talk about habilis instead".I understand that life could of arisen from differing organisms.Thats another topic and when you think about it requires some even more science suspending events to have happened.Thank you once again for staying on topic.

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seekingfirstthekingdom
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Message 226 of 493 (493001)
01-05-2009 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 219 by fallacycop
01-05-2009 1:25 AM


Re: Start conducting an honest discussion, Seeking
greetings fallacycop.I will try to make your forum reading experience a pleasant one.Of course you probably wont like me after im done but that comes with the territory

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seekingfirstthekingdom
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Message 227 of 493 (493003)
01-05-2009 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by Coyote
01-04-2009 10:03 PM


Re: Occams razor...
greetings coyote.
quote:
You come here full of "gotcha" questions
Ive spent most of my life struggling with the existence of God.In some ways it would be easier to conclude he aint there.For a fair period of my life i lived it like he isnt.I have an enquiring mind.And believe not to trust everything i read and hear.Im a doubting thomas.Its served me well so far.
quote:
What is the age of the earth?
Older than 6000 years.Id hazard a guess and say 3- 4 billion years old.By definition im not actually a fundamentalist or a creationist in the strictest sense of the word.I also believe parents have the right to choose whats taught to their children in schools and shouldnt have anything forced upon them that they dont agree with.Im not part of any intelligent design movement.I dont read creationist websites as i think they have some things wrong as well,starting with the age of the universe.
quote:
Would any scientific evidence convince you that your belief in creationism is incorrect?
Of course.But lets be realistic here.This debate has participants that are so firmly entrenched in their particular set of beliefs that nothing short of God whupping atheists upside their heads or absolutely irrefutable evidence that there aint a God would change our varying views.The evidence would have to be extremely compelling.In some ways this website has NOT changed anyones view but has given each sides view an airing anyway.I believe there is a God.

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