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Author Topic:   Why are evolution and creationism mutually exclusive?
Huntard
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Message 3 of 15 (493734)
01-10-2009 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by twinbanj
01-10-2009 9:16 AM


twinbanj writes:
Hey, im new to the forum.
Welcome.
Being a biology student, but having many friends who are church going christians, ive always wonderd why Evolution and creationism are mutualy exclusive? Why can't they both, work side by side?
Literal creation as in the bible and evolution can't work side by side, because the evidence only supports evolution. What can be done is say that god used evolution to diversify life.
For example, the big big.
I'm assuming you mean the Big Bang?
A popular theory. According to this theory, a giant explosion caused all matter to be hurled appart which then swirled up into planets and then life came togerther on a planet (or planets) and evolved etc etc until we are here today.
Not exactly. The Big Bang wasn't an explosion, it was a rapid expansion of space-time. This is a common misconception. And the matter existing after the big bang was mostly Hydrogen and a little bit Helium. All other matter was formed in the first stars, and this matter then eventually became planets and the life we see today.
Isn't it possible for the energy in the theorized big bang, to be a god?
It's certainly possible, but there's no evidence for it.

I hunt for the truth

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2317 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 10 of 15 (495333)
01-22-2009 1:57 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Brad McFall
01-21-2009 9:25 PM


Re: Exclusive SubConscious E/C mentality
Hey Brad.
I haven't heard of this, I'll look into it. But let me say this first, here in The Netherlands (and Europe in general) There isn't really a very strong creo movement. Certainly not strong enough to make the University of Leiden, one of our leading universities, fire anyone. It could be due to the crisis, but it is certainly not due to ANY pressure they received from creo's/ID'ers. How this ties in with what I said about god, I don't really see. I think the mail is not blaming ID as is, more that they are alarmed that people won't get a well enough education in biology to fend of creationism. Why I don't know, since our high schools already teach a lot about biology anyway. I even got taught some genetics in my high school, and biology wasn't even one of my graduate classes. In all, I think the person who sent the e-mail is overreacting, once the crisis is over, and money is available again, and a healthy faculty can be run, I'm sure they'll hire new biology professors.

I hunt for the truth

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