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onifre Member (Idle past 2971 days)  Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
You could've figured this one out with simple logic, onifre. If you read the Bible and are not convinced, then you used the wrong interpretation. If you read the Bible and are convinced, then you used the right one
The failure to see this very simple logic is a sign of my inadequacies as a human being. God forgive me... Thank you, catholic sci, for sheding light on my vailed spiritual eye.  "All great truths begin as blasphemies" "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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onifre Member (Idle past 2971 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Onfire I applaud you. You hit the nail on the head by describing the tendancy for Christian fundamentalist's (as well as other religious fundamentalists) to use circular reasoning in justifying their beliefs and insisting that if you don't follow their blind faith that we will spend eternity in eternal torment in hell. Thanks DA, with your help we've been able to corner them and exposed their bs circular reasoning. We continue to fight the good fight - lol. I maybe in Virginia soon for a show, if I am I will let you know so you can come out.
myspace facebook BTW, it's Onifre, not, Onfire. Don't worry every teacher in school made the same mistake...every single one.  - Oni "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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onifre Member (Idle past 2971 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Hi John,
Did you understand everything about your "onifre" family the moment you were born into this world? I don't think so! You were basically a loud noise on one end and a mess on the other end. As you grew from babyhood to manhood, you learned what what being a member of the "onifre" family was all about, and how respect, love and honor your parents. Did I deserve the condescension...? Maybe - lol
The same thing is true for those who are born into God's family (John 1:12-13). But one must first be born into God's family as Jesus declared in John 3:3-7 before one can see and understand the kingdom of God (Jesus' words, not mine). Still taking a stab at it? Ok. Heres your argument: Me: I believe in God, now what? You: Not good enough, you must believe in the Christian God, Jesus. Me: Who is Jesus, where do I find him? You: In this book. Me: Did he write this? You: No. Me: Well, how do I know this is his true message? You: Do you believe in God? Me: yes. You: The Christian God, Jesus? Etc, etc, etc... Do you see the problem...?
If Christianity is nothing but a belief system, then it's no better than any other belief system man may offer. Or no worse... Either way, it is just that, a belief.
I believe what is written in the Bible is true because when I obeyed We can end that sentence right there. Just make sure you obeyed the right people. "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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onifre Member (Idle past 2971 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Is there anything you or others at the EvC forum can believe in and "know" that what you believe in is true? Probably not! Unfortunately believe to be true and objectively true are not the same thing. I agree that you believe it to be true, but you can't pass on feelings AS truth.
Since you do not believe there is a God, and that you are in need of God's salvation, it is foolish for me or other Christians to try to explain to you how He manifests/proves Himself to those that are born into His family as Jesus declared in John 3:3-7. Cool.
PS - I've made sure that I've obeyed the right Person.
Me too. "I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks "I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky
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