OP
quote:
Being a biology student, but having many friends who are church going christians, ive always wonderd why Evolution and creationism are mutualy exclusive? Why can't they both, work side by side?
Huntard
quote:
Literal creation as in the bible and evolution can't work side by side, because the evidence only supports evolution. What can be done is say that god used evolution to diversify life.
They seem to be SO exclusive there in the Netherlands that the economic crisis has been blamed on Creationism (see an email to me below)
Petition for Evolutionary Biology in the Netherlands”
From: morphmet-request@morphometrics.org on behalf of morphmet (morphmet_moderator@morphometrics.org)
Sent: Wed 1/21/09 1:16 PM
To: morphmet (morphmet@morphometrics.org)
As a special case, I thought this appropriate for the attention of the
list membership. I leave it to individual members to deal with it as
they see fit.
-the morphmet mod (dslice)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Petition for Evolutionary Biology in the Netherlands
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:33:36 -0800 (PST)
From: andrea cardini
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Dear friends and colleagues,
generally I tend not to circulate emails concerning petitions but this one
seems worth a look for everybody directly or indirectly working in
evolutionary biology. And probably most of the subscribers of this list are
indeed interested in this field.
I leave it to the list moderator to decide whether it is appropriate to
send this message to all subscribers.
All the best
Andrea
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:25 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Isabella Capellini
>Reply-To: isab972@yahoo.co.uk
>Subject: Fw: Other: Petition for Evolutionary Biology in the Netherlands
>To: Biologia Evoluzionistica ,
> Vertebrati
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>--- On Tue, 20/1/09, evoldir@evol.biology.mcmaster.ca
wrote:
>
>> Dear Evoldir members,
>>
>> I would like yo bring to your attention the
>> following situation. Because of reorganization in
>> some Dutch Universities and money cutting in
>> research, several colleagues from Leiden
>> University will be fired by the end of the year
>> if we do not react. They might be fired anyway,
>> but I think that we should at least do our best for this
>> not to happen.
>>
>> The following evolutionary biologists will be
>> fired or will not be able to continue their research:
>> Jacques van Alphen (Marie Curie professor of Excellence),
>> Tom Van Dooren,
>> Frietson Galis (president of the European Society
>> for Evolutionary Developmental Biology),
>> Sacha Gultyaev,
>> Patsy Haccou (Executive vice-president of the
>> European Society of Evolutionary Biology),
>> Ken Kraaijeveld,
>> Femmie Kraaijeveld,
>> Hans Metz (retired, but still very active)
>> Rino Zandee.
>>
>> People in Leiden have just set up a petition, which you
>> will find here :
>> Euro Evo Devo | Page not found
>>
>> I strongly encourage you to sign this petition,
>> which will be sent to every person in the
>> Netherland government who might be able to do something.
>>
>> I think it is quite incredible that Darwins'year
>> will see an entire and excellent department of
>> evolutionary ecology close down and leave people
>> without a job (even those with a "permanent"
>> job!) because of budget restrictions. As written
>> in the petition, although evolutionary biology
>> will be heavily cut, molecular biology will be
>> spared. This is part of an alarming national
>> trend. Unfortunately, with growing creationism in
>> Europe, and budget cuttings elsewhere (including,
>> alas! France) I am afraid the Dutch trend will soon become
>> international.
>>
>> Please react ASAP !
>>
>> Isabelle Olivieri
>> President of the European Society for Evolutionary Biology
>> 2007-2009
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Université Montpellier 2, cc 65
>> Institut des Sciences de l'Evolution (ISEM, UMR 5554)
>> Place Eugne Bataillon
>> 34095 Montpellier cedex 05
>> Tel. 33 (0)4 67 14 37 50
>> Fax 33 (0)4 67 14 36 22
>> Portable 33 (0)6 86 43 19 45
>>
>> Isabelle Olivieri
>
Can you explain this situtation. I have a hard time understanding this!! It seems to me that ID has caused evos to blame creos for what was really a molecular vs organismal biological academic dispute? It doesnt even look like we can say what you said for god.
Brad