Say you could do a brain transplant. The recipient heart is ticking and the body's cells are cellulatin' the whole time. The donor brain is from a real bad sinner who has rejected the entreaties of the Holy Spirit. Do the sins come with the brain? Then what about the rest of the body? If the life, the person, the sinner resides in the incoming brain, was the recipient body alive during the period of time the old brain was gone and before the new one went in? If yes, who was it during that brain-free time? Is the resulting composite a sinner? How did the sinner spread from the brain into the rest of the body?
Whoa... You're weird.
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Do the sins come with the brain?
I'd speculate that they do, in that they come along with the sentience and consciousness.
Then what about the rest of the body? If the life, the person, the sinner resides in the incoming brain, was the recipient body alive during the period of time the old brain was gone and before the new one went in?
My position is that without a sentient and conscious ability, an entity cannot sin.
But I think your main point was in
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So what exactly was transferred to the physical form?
ICANT must be talking about an eternal life that presumably requires God to exist.
Assuming that, I'd speculate that the transferred requirement is sentience and consciousness (the "breath of life")
All the chemistry going on in our bodies (and in the bodies of newts, monkeys, bacteria, etc.) seems to work pretty much along the same lines as chemistry does outside those bodies.
I get someone seeing sentience and consciousness as something unique to humans that requires that 'something else going on' (the transferred requirement) that doesn't happen outside our bodies (including newts, monkeys, bacteria, etc.). Not that it has been thoroughly established, but that I get someone seeing that.
Was he adding electrons? Atoms? What exactly?
Obviously I'm going with the whole sentience and consciousness thing here.....
I have noticed that some chunks of body stay alive when they are moved to a different body, even to a body of a different species in many cases. Hell, some living parts keep on living in lab environments. What is it that moves around with that chunk of liver that keeps it alive, and if you pull the plug in the lab, how does the life know to go away?
We've gotten back around again so I'll stop for now.
My short answer:
The logical outcome is that the soul relies on the body for existence here.
Wow, after a re-read, I think I've missed something.
You threw me off with the whole 'where did sin enter the equation' question because I don't think that "newts, monkeys, bacteria, etc." can sin.
But they're alive...right?
Oh yeah, God didn't give them the "breath of life".
I looked it up.
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