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Author Topic:   Kurt Wise - A YAC and an old earth evolutionist?
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Message 46 of 47 (496204)
01-27-2009 12:29 AM

Things Kurt Wise have shown up at Panda's Thumb

Quoting the first 3 paragraphs from PT:

I rediscovered a 1995 article by creationist paleontologist Kurt Wise in response to a question I got this morning. I discovered to my surprise that the article is online, but, probably because almost no one reads creationist articles, no one had commented on it.

Wise basically gives away the whole game by conceding that the fossil record does contain numerous examples of transitional series bridging major transitions. His only qualm is in the very small species-to-species transitions where (like Gould, his PhD advisor) he says the fossil record has a more punctuated pattern. (As far as I’ve heard, scientific meta-analyses are about split 50-50 across various groups about whether the fossil record is punctuated or smooth at this level; at any rate, these small differences between species should be irrelevant to creationists, since this level of change is well within the “microevolution within a kind” (usually a taxonomic family or so) which creationists readily accept.)

A scanned PDF of the article is online here. Click the “Ape-men, bird-lizards, and walking whales” circle and a link to the article comes up. After reading the article, one can’t help saying, “Why don’t you just GIVE UP already!!” Of course, we know the reason why: Kurt Wise has forthrightly stated that his adherence to Biblical literalism comes first, and if the physical evidence is against creationism, so much the worse for the evidence. This is why Richard Dawkins dubbed Wise “an honest creationist.”

As stated, that first link does not go directly to the PDF in question. The direct link is http://www.bryancore.org/anniversary/04.pdf (I don't know why that wasn't given at PT).

But anyway -


CORE is the Center for Origins Research, and is headed by Dr. Kurt Wise.

Quoting that homepage:

The Center for Origins Research at Bryan College is the world leader in creationist biology research. We believe that science is an avenue for learning about God by studying the things He made. We seek to develop a new way of looking at biology that honors the Creator.

Seemingly there should be a lot of interesting creationist perspective there, considering that CORE is headed by "an honest creationist".

So, in summary, BUMP.


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Message 47 of 47 (496229)
01-27-2009 5:41 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Minnemooseus
01-27-2009 12:29 AM

Re: Things Kurt Wise have shown up at Panda's Thumb
Hi, Moose, isn`t 'honest creationist' an oxymoron? :-p

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