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Author Topic:   What is "True Science"
kuresu
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Message 1 of 8 (497047)
02-01-2009 8:57 AM


So building off of:
Message 65
John 10:10 has come upon this distinction between science and true science. It would seem that true science is
John 10:10 writes:
Theories are just that, theories until they are proven to be true. Theories may be studied by scientific methods, but that does not make them "true science" in and of themselves. When they are proven to be true, then the theories and the science that proved them to be true may be considered true science.
Message 56
In message 65 (linked at the top), he has this to say:
John 10:10 writes:
I will correct my "opinion" on certain matters of how atoms work when we finally "discover" how they really work. Until then, I and most nuclear physicists rely on the things we do understand concerning how atoms work and have proved to a high degree of accuracy.
The same is true for most doctors. They may not know everything about how the human body works, but they rely on the things they have learned about the human body from doctors and sceitists who have gone before them and proven what works, and then old and new doctors continue the process of expanding that knowledge into even better knowledge of how the human body works. This they do in labs and in the field with real science as they help humans will all manner of illnesses, not with theories of evolution that cannot help an ameoba get any better.
It would seem to me that John 10:10's definition of true science is that which has practical application to improve something, regardless of any previous definition he has given (largely because relying on the definition that "true science" is science which has been proven is decidedly not usable, per Message 61).
It would seem that there is a disconnect between what it is science does and the effects of increased scientific knowledge in the world. That is, science can be said to be largely abstract, the goal simply being figuring out how something works. Applying this knowledge, then, leads to concrete, non-abstract, results. Knowing how nuclear fission and fusion happen leads directly to improved weapons and power generation. Knowing how hormones affect the human body leads directly to hormonal therapy. Knowing how evolution happens leads to a better understanding as to why we have super resistant strains of diseases and what we can do to slow their spread.
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