Percy is a Deist - Now what's the difference between a deist and an atheist?

As I understand deism, the clock maker who had no space in which he could have existed somehow miraculously tosses out some substances from which a substance called metal is derived, into the cosmos. Scientists call this expansion. Eventually these substances form into balls called stars, planets etc. On one of these balls different substances from the ball eventually became a clock. The lazy clockmaker fell asleep after tossing out the substances into the cosmos dreaming about who knows what.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

That deists believe in a god indicates that they must have a sense that the supernatural exists.I would assume that there is an element of agnosticism in deists who have no particular god which they believe in. By and large, do deists in the Western world identify the Biblical god as their god?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Pens are visible to the naked eye. Things like heat rays are not. Try observing a heat ray on your desk with the naked eye. It may be there but you don't see it with the naked eye. You may, however, feel heat in the area of your desk.Some of us who have been born of the spirit of God and have experienced the effects of God know that God exists similarly as you may know that heat exists on your desk.Perhaps you have yet to make an appropriate search for God.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Your silly strawman totally misses the point. I've never seen a heat wave with my naked eye. I've never seen God with my naked eye. I've observed the effects of both. Get it?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I said I feel God's presence. That's a spiritual experience. Rahvin's sillyfied wording appeared to be more visually related than feely related. Rahvin knew that I was not applying any of the five physical senses but he chose to play the strawman game, as I see it.Rahvin wrote:

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I don't know what brand of Christianity you tried. Sadly, something's amiss. As per your analogy, I see pens all over the desk. I described the Exodus one and cited videos of it. Where were you when that was debated? I see the intricately handcrafted designs of all of them. I see the ones lying around on the desk which the prophets said would be there. Sure enough, when I looked, there they were.I observe these phenomenal pens. Then I corroborate them with the experiences, peace and assurance which the Holy Spirit provides.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Do you believe that God has any relationship to humans to the extent that this god would have an interest in revealing something about his nature, will and purpose to humans?Do human intelligent creatures such as we are have any responsibility to God?Does the Bible have any bearing on the fact that you believe in a god? If not, to what do you attribute your belief?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

That's a forthright and interesting answer, Percy. Perhaps that says something as to why, historically, all human cultures have been inherently religious. I see this as (Abe: one of the corroborating evidences) that there is a god. If there is a god, then all religions can't be true. This is why I regard religion as the most important thing in life. If there is a true god, likely humans have a responsibility relative to that god. If the souls/spirits of creatures who have the mental capacity to relate to such a being are immortal then likely there would be some medium of revelation or interaction from the god to the creature.We observe that there are literally thousands of alleged gods claimed by cultures of humanity. I've delved into the claims of many religions. I have yet to find one that has anything close to the Biblical record, relative to history, archeology, fulfilled prophecy or social cultural benefit then that which the Bible evidences. Edited by Buzsaw, : Embolodened addition

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

This is a blatant lie and personal attack. If you think this is not a lie you need to either copy and paste or link documentation that Buzsaw has supported the persecution of anyone. This is another lie and personal attack. You need to either copy and paste or link documentation that Buzsaw has ever condemned anyone to hell. Anglagard, are you even aware of half of what Jesus taught? Are you aware that Jesus taught every bit as much, if not more, about Hell as he taught about Heaven? I can quote mine numerous statements about Jesus relative to hell, torment and destruction, if that's what you need to get your thinking balanced.Anglagard, you need to get something above novice level of an understanding of the Biblical record before attempting to aire objective criticism of Christians and Christianity.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Parent: Verbal definition; Online Dictionary:v. par·ent·ed, par·ent·ing, par·ents
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1. To act as a parent to; raise and nurture: "A genitor who does not parent the child is not its parent" Ashley Montagu."The mother and I of our children, as parents, nurtured and raised our children in a manner which we as parents deemed best for their welfare and success as citizens. Both of my boys received Boy's State Honors and one was a West Point Cadet. They both have successful secular careers, nice home and families.At the age of accountability, my boys were free to go their own ways. They wisely chose the ways that they were brought up in. The Biblical principals which we had brought them up in were significant factors in their success and in the fact that they avoided many of the pitfalls which ruined the lives of some of their old school friends.No, Anglagard, no abuse to our children. Abused children, by and large, have parents who have failed to apply Biblical principals to the task of parenting their children. Sadly, their parents had no knowledge of how to successfully parent their children.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.