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Author Topic:   Faith and belief - The Almighty God revealed through his grandness
Nighttrain
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Message 110 of 224 (497980)
02-06-2009 10:13 PM


Morality
With a history of almost two thousand years of bloody-minded butchery, Christians still talk about morality? Bit like Pol Pot saying he only wiped out his countrymen to help the Red Cross.

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Message 127 of 224 (498012)
02-07-2009 5:10 AM


Grandness and love
Wonder what happened to the OP`s author with his evidence of God`s 'grandeur and love'?

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Message 163 of 224 (498165)
02-08-2009 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by DevilsAdvocate
02-08-2009 9:18 AM


Blood-lust
Why wait 2000 years to correct his first fuck up? Why not instill these principles/philosophies in the first place?
Waal y`see, DA, YHWH, being omniscient, knew from the start that the Jews would fail, but He had this blood-lust thingy that He couldn`t control. A world-wide genocide didn`t sate His hunger,so He rigged the rules to keep up the slaughter. Something that Christians admirably followed in the following centuries.

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Message 164 of 224 (498167)
02-08-2009 7:28 PM


PdeA
Just like to point out, fellas, that the 'woman taken in adultery' (Pericope de Adultera) has some pretty dodgy provenance. But, then, what part of the Bible doesn`t have dodgy provenance?
If you`re interested, Wikipedia gives a variety of viewpoints.
Jesus and the woman taken in adultery - Wikipedia

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Message 192 of 224 (498227)
02-09-2009 4:01 AM


What about Reality?
You can always gauge the depth of delusion when believers start retreating from the world of reality into the lyricism of their faith. The language gets more expansive, the praise more effusive, the quotes more extensive. The 'grandeur' and 'love' boileth over.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the malevolence of life carves its destructive ways through believer and realist alike. As the world`s population multiplies, numbers affected rise and intensity of infliction increases held only at bay by that most derided by believers--science. Do believers let the penny drop? Nope. They pray harder, blame those outside their faith, and scan their belief-books ever more closely to feed their delusion.
Meanwhile,back in the real world, as it has during the history of the human race, diseases increase, parasites multiply, viruses emerge, fungi attack---all courtesy of the Creator of Everything. If you believe the deluded.
Not content with destroying humans, supposedly as a result of ONE man`s error, this Being of 'grandeur' and 'love' created afflictions for the lesser lights of this world, animals, birds, insects, fish, etc.. Hell, even the bacteria HE created turn on each other. What did THEY do to share our penalties?
So, believers, stop navel-gazing, grab a dose of reality. Go out there and get infected. Soon.

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Message 218 of 224 (498355)
02-09-2009 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Peg
02-09-2009 4:24 AM


Re: Deity of Christ
John8:17 'Jesus answered the Pharasees: In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself and the Father who sent me bears witness to me'
Isn`t that the text the Watchtower Society uses to dodge those 25,000 child abuse claims?

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Message 219 of 224 (498356)
02-09-2009 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Cedre
02-09-2009 5:32 AM


Re: Clarification
You`re off your meds, Ced, aren`t you? Y`now, the ones evolutionary science created just for you.

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Message 221 of 224 (498360)
02-09-2009 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Cedre
02-09-2009 5:46 AM


Hoaxes
O don't be that naive this were examples that world experts in the field were too naive enough to fall for, they hailed it as evidence for evolution, especially the Piltdown man. for forty years this was used as evidence for the theory, 40 years. I don't think they were naive but rather they didn't do any proper examinations of these various finds because they had found what they were looking for.
Speaking of long-running hoaxes, how about the Bible? Wasn`t until the last couple of centuries that scholars felt safe enough to investigate, and what did they find? Holes big enough to drive Mack trucks through. Multiple versions, contradictions, omissions, interpolations, conflations. Woohoo, what a hoax that was.

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Message 222 of 224 (498362)
02-09-2009 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Adminnemooseus
02-09-2009 5:53 AM


Re: Scavenger hunt time
Hey, Moose, I did try somewhere back in post 65. Or was it 142? Somewhere there. Guess we`ll have to take a raincheck on the 'grandeur, love' bit.

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Message 223 of 224 (498368)
02-09-2009 10:02 PM


Apologies, Moose, I started back on page 14 and only arrived at the finish.

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