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Nighttrain
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Message 5 of 167 (496336)
01-27-2009 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Modulous
01-27-2009 11:49 AM


Dredging in the Dust
Hi, Mod, I wonder what the fascination is that believers have with the past. If they are not dredging up this item (1861 forpete`ssake), they are waffling on about Charles Lyell said this, or Darwin might have said that. Are modern scientific discoveries so far beyond their ken, they have to scour waste-baskets?
How about tackling today`s news item:
SIR David Attenborough receives hate mail over his belief in evolution, the British broadcaster and naturalist has revealed.
Sir David is preparing for more letters telling him to "burn in hell" when his latest television show, a documentary on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, is aired in the UK on Monday.
"They tell me to burn in hell and good riddance," Sir David told Radio Times magazine.
The popular 82-year-old said people often asked him why he did not "give credit" in his programs to God for creating the natural world.
"They always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds," Sir David said.
"I always reply by saying that I think of a little child in East Africa with a worm burrowing through his eyeball.
"The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs. I find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator."
More on
http://www.news.com.au/...y/0,23739,24973873-5003402,00.html
BTW, anybody got a name for that little critter?

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Nighttrain
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Message 10 of 167 (496415)
01-28-2009 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by olivortex
01-28-2009 5:13 AM


Ze French
We the french always have to pay for the others! whyyyy????
Because you are always such good sports. :-)
And welcome to EVC.

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Nighttrain
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Message 73 of 167 (498231)
02-09-2009 4:14 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Peg
02-09-2009 3:17 AM


Wu-shu
'There also must once have been a mother tongue that is the ancestor of languages as divers as Urdu and Serbo-Croatian, Welsh and Italian. There are no written records of such a language, but linguists have designated it Proto-Indo-European, or PIE for short.... At some point all Indo-Europeans spoke the same language, and at some later point various groups must have spread across Europe in one of the great undocumented migrations of prehistory...
Linguists estimate that about 6,000 years ago, the Indo-Europeans were still a coherent group - they had not yet begun to migrate. This means that they belong to the Neolithic Age.'
The Chinese migrated from Indo-Europe? 6K ago?

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Nighttrain
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Message 74 of 167 (498233)
02-09-2009 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by anglagard
02-09-2009 4:07 AM


Tell me a story----
don't know what to say to those who demand the Bible is a newspaper or science textbook other than to say it loses it's impact when one takes its emotional power away when they refuse to treat it as it was intended, as literature.
And mainly fictional lit., Angla.

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Nighttrain
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Message 78 of 167 (498243)
02-09-2009 5:26 AM
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02-09-2009 5:18 AM


Middle-er-muddle
there are different schools of thought in all disciplines...the truth is likely to be somewhere in the middle
Even in the multitude of Bibles?

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Nighttrain
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Message 103 of 167 (498489)
02-11-2009 5:49 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by anglagard
02-11-2009 2:25 AM


Re: Male?
Bugger the all male angle, Angla, I want to know how Jesus got out of the womb and left the virgo intacta. Osmosis? :-)

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Nighttrain
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Message 112 of 167 (498565)
02-11-2009 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Shield
02-11-2009 6:51 AM


Re: Way Ahead of You
Does a female god exist?
Well,archaeologists did find figurines, and inscriptions to 'YHWH and his Astoreth' all over the place.

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Nighttrain
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Message 156 of 167 (498718)
02-13-2009 4:11 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by General Anubis
02-12-2009 8:12 AM


Re: One of the most pathetic lists I've ever seen
17.) This has already been answered by other posters, but it mostly comes down to translation and symbolism. The most accurate Hebrew-to-English translation that we have (99.9% accuracy to original text - I have many references to cite this number if you wish), the NASB or NIV (both are equally accurate) say that the eagle 'hovers' over its young. This suggests the way that eagles brood over their nests, as do most birds.
- The argument here is a pretty pathetic attempt at debunking the Bible, IMO.
99.9%? Since we don`t have anything even approximating the autographs, this sounds like another POOMA.

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Nighttrain
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Message 157 of 167 (498719)
02-13-2009 4:22 AM
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02-12-2009 6:21 PM


Re: One of the most pathetic lists I've ever seen
Also - the King James Version is quite notorious for its skewed interpretations using today's English applied to the English of that time. Your best bet will be New American Standard or New International Version. These have both been translated directly from the Hebrew/Greek texts using thousands of corroborating documents and translating meaning for meaning rather than word for word, to ensure a more accurate description of the original meaning.
More POOMAS. You are going to finish up with a very sore ass.

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Nighttrain
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Message 166 of 167 (498762)
02-13-2009 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by General Anubis
02-13-2009 12:31 PM


Re: Where does the Bible say that?
Well, I went into your link, Nubi, and found the usual smoke-n-mirrors of Wesley Ringer (just as well you corrected that 99.9%). The links took me into more apologists making grandiose claims, but I gave it away when they started mentioning Josh-gasp-McDowell. At first glance on your long previous post, I thought we might have finally found a believer with a bit of real knowledge, but the sources you quoted have feet of clay. Nice try, though.

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