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Author Topic:   Evolution guided by god? Or a natural process?
bluegenes
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Message 6 of 44 (499120)
02-16-2009 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by inge1990
02-16-2009 2:56 PM


Theistic evolution
inge1990 writes:
Now I was wondering if there are "arguments" (not scientifically proven) to support the statement that Evolution is guided by God,
I've never heard any arguments along those lines that I consider any good, but that's just me!
However, maybe I can point to some of the better attempts.
Try John Polkinghorne for some theology from someone who is a respected scientist in his own right, and an Anglican Bishop. One of his ideas is that evolution is God's way of giving us free will, which may interest you as a Christian.
And Simon Conway Morris, a respected paleontologist, and a Christian who thinks that convergence that we see in evolution is an indication of direction, and relates this to his religious beliefs.
Both, in perhaps different ways, also seem to imply that the human mind contains something beyond what evolution might produce. But both are certainly believers in evolution and common descent.
If you google those two names, you should find some material from them somewhere related to evolution.

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bluegenes
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Message 8 of 44 (499123)
02-16-2009 8:15 PM
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02-16-2009 7:57 PM


Re: teleology
Modulous writes:
Or going further back to Cicero...
Thanks for that last one, fellow barbarian, as I don't remember reading it before.
The Blind Horologe-Maker, eh?

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bluegenes
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Message 32 of 44 (499410)
02-18-2009 2:43 PM
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02-18-2009 2:36 PM


JaysonD writes:
Ok, I think my language was a little inexact, maybe I should have said:
The only successful argument for evolution guided by an intelligent creator is ...
I think you're being rather generous in describing the "faith" argument as successful. It can be used for anything, and means nothing.

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