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Author Topic:   How did Monkeys get to South America?
Engineer
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Message 118 of 137 (499514)
02-18-2009 10:17 PM


Monkeys probably came from North America
Here's a recent press release:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/...ases/2005/03/050329134437.htm
A lot of African animals came from North America. The raft went the other way. ;-)

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Engineer
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Message 119 of 137 (499515)
02-18-2009 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Theodoric
02-18-2009 10:07 PM


Re: A Monkey On A Raft
quote:
Cryptozoology really? Wow!!!
a Science Daily peer reviewed article. I guess you aren't interested in science. Oh well back to flying monkeys for you.
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Engineer
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Message 124 of 137 (499549)
02-19-2009 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by Dr Adequate
02-19-2009 1:47 AM


Re: A Monkey On A Raft
"Some evolution experts think the raft from africa borders on ridiculous."
quote:
Quote them.
That will take some research but I'll give you a hint: Floating Islands on the ocean fall in the category of mythology:
Floating island - Wikipedia(fiction)
"The so-called "millions of years of rafting opportunity" never existed unless monkeys found a time machine."
quote:
Substantiate your statement, or consider the possibility that primatologists know more about primatology than you do.
And perhaps they know more than you as well. I provided the link to Dr. Boch's presentation in the science journal. Did you bother reading it? If not, then I can't help you.

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Engineer
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Message 125 of 137 (499554)
02-19-2009 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by bluegenes
02-19-2009 6:37 AM


Re: Rafting certainly happens!
quote:
You're presenting evidence against the point you seem to be trying to make. Of course the rafting can go both ways, and across any oceans. While mammals being washed out to sea and clinging to some kind of flotsam would be common, voyaging from one continent to another would be fairly rare. This is because it requires a combination of circumstances, each individual one being common or likely, but getting them all together statistically rare, but arguably almost inevitable at some time given the time scale.
I think there is a better case for rodents than monkeys.
What time window do you propose?
Why is a parallel evolution of monkeys from creatures of similar origin so unacceptable in two different locations?
This is one of the issues I have against the theory of evolution in it's current form.
If an event can happen once then it can happen again. It should be repeatable. If monkeys can live quite well in both South America and Africa even today, then they should be able to evolve as such from a common ancestor.
You need more evidence to support that this is indeed happening, not just with monkeys but with other species as well including humans.

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