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Black
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Message 196 of 473 (500207)
02-23-2009 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Granny Magda
02-23-2009 10:55 PM


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Black
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Message 197 of 473 (500208)
02-23-2009 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by Theodoric
02-23-2009 10:55 PM


Re: What the???
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Theodoric
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Message 198 of 473 (500210)
02-23-2009 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Black
02-23-2009 11:05 PM


Re: What the???
Black,
Really if all you have are personal attacks then please go someplace else. You left a jackass response and I was trying to show you that you need to back up your statements with some sort of evidence.
Invoking scripture is not evidence.
If you are just coming here to insult, then go someplace else.
Just attacking other peoples evidence is not evidence. You need to provide some to show why your beliefs have validity.

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Black
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Message 199 of 473 (500212)
02-23-2009 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Theodoric
02-23-2009 11:16 PM


Re: What the???
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Granny Magda
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Message 200 of 473 (500221)
02-23-2009 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Black
02-23-2009 11:01 PM


quote:
The issue is not the evidence the issue is that we are interpreting the same evidence differently which is typical.
By which you meant to say "No Granny, I can't think of any scripture that contradicts the model you presented.".
If you do think of any, or if you decide to engage in a meaningful and considered dialogue at any point, do feel free to chip in. You might even stretch to a couple of paragraphs if you really push yourself. This is a debate board after all, not a chat room.
Nighty-night.
Mutate and Survive

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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Black
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Message 201 of 473 (500223)
02-23-2009 11:32 PM
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02-23-2009 11:28 PM


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Kapyong
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Message 202 of 473 (500232)
02-24-2009 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Black
02-23-2009 9:20 PM


Gday,
Black writes:
Is it not reasonable to suggest that the Hebrews had a very limited understanding of our earth?
Yes,
they thought the world was flat, a common limited understanding of the times.
Kapyong

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Peg
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Message 203 of 473 (500233)
02-24-2009 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by Granny Magda
02-23-2009 7:55 PM


Re: Storehouses
GM writes:
There has always been war, famine, pestilence and death. This is a pretty banal fulfilment. You also seem to be confused as to the meaning of the word "literally". You can't have a "literal event" related to the Four Horsemen, without having four bloody great ghouls on horses.
we were discussing the fact that the bible contains symbolisms and metaphors and analogies
we dont take them literally as if 4 ghouls on horseback are going to ride throughout the earth declaring war and spreading disease...they are symbolic
this is why not everything in the bible is to be taken literally as you seem to be doing

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Black
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Message 204 of 473 (500241)
02-24-2009 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Kapyong
02-24-2009 1:15 AM


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Kapyong
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Message 205 of 473 (500244)
02-24-2009 5:58 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Black
02-24-2009 3:42 AM


Actually Black, it was YOUR claim :
"Is it not reasonable to suggest that the Hebrews had a very limited understanding of our earth? "
Kapyong

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AdminModulous
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Message 206 of 473 (500245)
02-24-2009 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Black
02-24-2009 3:42 AM


Warning
This goes for more than just you Black, but to everybody here remember the goal is to have a civil debate. If anybody is confused as to how the moderators think this is best achieved please look at the Forum Rules.
In particular I think this rule might need some special consideration:
quote:
Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
Do not reply to this post. This is not a request for comment. People - pick up the quality of debate or don't participate. Thank you.

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shalamabobbi
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Message 207 of 473 (500303)
02-24-2009 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Black
02-23-2009 11:01 PM


another verse on height of heavens
Hi black,
Welcome aboard. That different interpretations exist is a given. What GM has done is collect together various passages that taken together paint the same picture. This argument is not new but will be to some individuals.
In support of the view that the heavens were a dome into which the stars were placed I will offer
Isaiah 14:13,14
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most high.
In this verse we see that ascending above the stars is comparable to ascending above the clouds. Even allowing an order of magnitude difference between clouds and stars we are left with the conclusion that a modern concept of stars eluded ancient peoples.

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Black
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Message 208 of 473 (500331)
02-24-2009 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by shalamabobbi
02-24-2009 1:55 PM


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Theodoric
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Message 209 of 473 (500335)
02-24-2009 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by Black
02-24-2009 7:15 PM


Re: another verse on height of heavens
So you agree that the bible is not inerrant?

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Black
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Message 210 of 473 (500337)
02-24-2009 7:29 PM
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02-24-2009 7:25 PM


Re: another verse on height of heavens
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